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Smart meter in block of flats - Is it possible to have one fitted?

  • June 8, 2017
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I've just switched to OVO and was told that we could have a smart meter installed, but since then I haven't heard anything further. I am concerned because our meter isn't in our flat, it is in a communal cupboard to which I don't have access. I'm worried I won't be able to read the meter regularly if we can't get a smart meter. Has anyone had experience of this?

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Updated on 13/05/26 by Chris_OVO

 

You can check whether a smart meter appointment is possible by heading to your online account or app. You can find out how to do this in this guide:

 

 

You may be advised that the booking isn’t possible at the moment. If you live in a block of flats check out the advice below which might help explain why we’re not able to offer this (please note that living in a block of flats doesn’t mean you won’t be able to have a smart meter).

 

 

Why are smart meters in blocks of flats sometimes an issue?

 

In order for a Smart meter to send us readings it needs to be installed in a place where it’s able to get a signal.

If you live in an area where S2 Smart meters use mobile phone signal to send the readings, the meters would need to be installed in a place where there’s a mobile phone signal. Check out the table below to see which areas this would affect:

 

North - Meter Point Administration Numbers (MPANs) starting 15, 16, 17, 18, 23 South - MPANs 10, 11, 12, 13, 19, 20, 21, 22
Uses radio signal - doesn’t depend on mobile signal strength Uses mobile signal

 

For this reason, we wouldn't normally recommend having smart meters installed in communal cupboards or basements, in areas which use a mobile signal.  If the meter cupboard doesn’t have strong enough signal this can lead to smart meter communication issues.

 

The other issue with blocks of flats is that, sometimes, our engineer won’t be able to replace the meter without cutting power to other flats. This is something you can check with the landlord or facilities management company before making the appointment. You can find out more about this here:

 

 

 

What if the meters aren’t in the same place?

 

This can also cause some issues for flat-dwelling smart meters. As the gas meter needs to be within range of the communications hub (which is attached to the electricity meter) it may not be able to communicate with us if the meters are too far apart. We wouldn't currently advise booking a dual smart meter installation if the meters are on different floors within a block of flats.
 

 

If I’m not affected by the issues above can I get an installation booked?

 

Of course! Click here to book today - just make sure you’re able to get access to the meter cupboard on the day of the installation.

 

 

Will the In Home Display work if the smart meter isn’t in my flat?

 

The In Home Display (IHD) needs to be near the electricity meter, which houses the communications hub, connecting devices to the smart meter via the Home Area Network (HAN). So if your flat isn’t right next to your meter, your IHD may not work. However, we do now have specialist kit that can improve the signal in these instances, so it may also be possible to set up the IHD.

 

The smart meter itself will still be able to send us your readings even if the IHD isn’t possible, which gives you access to some great usage graphs on your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS):

 

 

 

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52 replies

Lucy_OVO
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February 12, 2018
@MickyDee - I’ve moved your topic over here as I think you’ll find the answer to your topic on the thread.

Lucy
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MickyDee
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February 13, 2018
As a further to the Ovo smart meter debacle. My question really hasn't been answered in that why is it that the distance between my electricity meter (1st floor) and my gas meter (Ground floor), is ok for the British Gas smart meter system, but not for the Ovo smart meter system?

The only conclusion that I can reach is that the Ovo system is inferior to the British Gas system.
M Dewi
Tim_OVO
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February 14, 2018
@geoffenator any advice for @MickyDee on this smart meter query?
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February 15, 2018
I'm not sure there is much I can add here - there is a trade-off between range and battery life but I don't know how much OVO and their installers can adjust them. It's also possible to build quite large Zigbee networks using repeaters - my heating network has 25 nodes spread around the house and uses two repeaters. That said, I can see why the installers might not want to support non-standard networks.
MickyDee
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February 15, 2018
Thank you geoffenator.

At last a post that makes some sense of the range problem being restricted by battery life. Of course the gas meter has no electrical supply so has to depend on a battery. The BG gas meter didn't seem to have a problem in sending the data to the main unit on the 1st floor, all of the time it was working. Is it that the Ovo gas meter doesn't have the battery power or longevity to send data very far?
M Dewi
February 15, 2018
I'm not in this industry so I can't speak with any great authority about specific meters. OVO expect their batteries to last 10 years but perhaps BG have built a more frequent battery exchange into their maintenance schedules. Some of the nodes in my own Zigbee network need their batteries changing annually.

There are a number of things that can affect the range other than just the power level. Some meters work on 2.4GHz (the same frequency as wifi) while others use 868MHz; each has pros and cons with respect to battery life, propagating through walls and other obstructions, and interference from other equipment such as microwave ovens, baby monitors and wifi. The signal can also be affected by antenna orientation and direction but I'd expect that to common installation thing.

Geoff
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July 24, 2019
ive read all the comments and it seems I can’t get a smart meter fitted. Was told this by Npower when they came to install. There are five gas meters in the bin store in the basement of our block, we all have access to the meters. I live on the second floor. Does anyone have any idea when energy suppliers will be able to install meters that’ll work with shared meter space? Given that I live in London where thousands live in blocks of flats with meters stored downstairs? It. Makes the smart meter discounts on new tariffs useless for me. Thanks
Nancy_OVO
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July 25, 2019
Hey @Speeding. Slug ,

The problem with these setups is that the gas meter needs to connect to the electricity meter, which then communicates with the supplier and sends both readings over. It does this through a signal similar to Bluetooth, which is relatively short range.

I'm not sure about plans to incorporate gas meters in shared spaces into the smart network. Perhaps @Transparent might know a bit more about this?

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October 10, 2022

I rent a first floor flat where the meter is located downstairs in the separate ground floor flat. It is counted as a communal cupboard but the address is different.

The meter offers LOW and NORMAL readings. There are also two other devices in the cupboard.

My estate agent and landlord are not the most helpful bunch. 

Which device do I use and how do I ensure the reading does not include the energy used from downstairs? 

I've attached some pictures for reference.

Thank you for any help!!

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October 10, 2022

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