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I've just switched to OVO and was told that we could have a smart meter installed, but since then I haven't heard anything further. I am concerned because our meter isn't in our flat, it is in a communal cupboard to which I don't have access. I'm worried I won't be able to read the meter regularly if we can't get a smart meter. Has anyone had experience of this?

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Updated on 13/05/26 by Chris_OVO

 

You can check whether a smart meter appointment is possible by heading to your online account or app. You can find out how to do this in this guide:

 

 

You may be advised that the booking isn’t possible at the moment. If you live in a block of flats check out the advice below which might help explain why we’re not able to offer this (please note that living in a block of flats doesn’t mean you won’t be able to have a smart meter).

 

 

Why are smart meters in blocks of flats sometimes an issue?

 

In order for a Smart meter to send us readings it needs to be installed in a place where it’s able to get a signal.

If you live in an area where S2 Smart meters use mobile phone signal to send the readings, the meters would need to be installed in a place where there’s a mobile phone signal. Check out the table below to see which areas this would affect:

 

North - Meter Point Administration Numbers (MPANs) starting 15, 16, 17, 18, 23 South - MPANs 10, 11, 12, 13, 19, 20, 21, 22
Uses radio signal - doesn’t depend on mobile signal strength Uses mobile signal

 

For this reason, we wouldn't normally recommend having smart meters installed in communal cupboards or basements, in areas which use a mobile signal.  If the meter cupboard doesn’t have strong enough signal this can lead to smart meter communication issues.

 

The other issue with blocks of flats is that, sometimes, our engineer won’t be able to replace the meter without cutting power to other flats. This is something you can check with the landlord or facilities management company before making the appointment. You can find out more about this here:

 

 

 

What if the meters aren’t in the same place?

 

This can also cause some issues for flat-dwelling smart meters. As the gas meter needs to be within range of the communications hub (which is attached to the electricity meter) it may not be able to communicate with us if the meters are too far apart. We wouldn't currently advise booking a dual smart meter installation if the meters are on different floors within a block of flats.
 

 

If I’m not affected by the issues above can I get an installation booked?

 

Of course! Click here to book today - just make sure you’re able to get access to the meter cupboard on the day of the installation.

 

 

Will the In Home Display work if the smart meter isn’t in my flat?

 

The In Home Display (IHD) needs to be near the electricity meter, which houses the communications hub, connecting devices to the smart meter via the Home Area Network (HAN). So if your flat isn’t right next to your meter, your IHD may not work. However, we do now have specialist kit that can improve the signal in these instances, so it may also be possible to set up the IHD.

 

The smart meter itself will still be able to send us your readings even if the IHD isn’t possible, which gives you access to some great usage graphs on your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS):

 

 

 

OVO customer but not got a smart meter yet? - Book today!

Interested but not yet an OVO customer? - Check out our plans!

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Mattj3135
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June 9, 2017
I've just switched to OVO and was told that we could have a smart meter installed, but since then I haven't heard anything further. I am concerned because our meter isn't in our flat, it is in a communal cupboard to which I don't have access. I'm worried I won't be able to read the meter regularly if we can't get a smart meter. Has anyone had experience of this?

Hi @Damaris238 welcome to the forum and thanks for posting.

Check out this discussion here on distances for going smart https://forum.ovoenergy.com/pay-monthly-21/whats-the-maximum-distance-between-meters-to-go-smart-339/index1.html

If you reach out to the OVO customer care team, you can find out what the smart meter engineer availability is for your region.
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June 9, 2017

Updated on 13/05/26 by Chris_OVO

 

You can check whether a smart meter appointment is possible by heading to your online account or app. You can find out how to do this in this guide:

 

 

You may be advised that the booking isn’t possible at the moment. If you live in a block of flats check out the advice below which might help explain why we’re not able to offer this (please note that living in a block of flats doesn’t mean you won’t be able to have a smart meter).

 

 

Why are smart meters in blocks of flats sometimes an issue?

 

In order for a Smart meter to send us readings it needs to be installed in a place where it’s able to get a signal.

If you live in an area where S2 Smart meters use mobile phone signal to send the readings, the meters would need to be installed in a place where there’s a mobile phone signal. Check out the table below to see which areas this would affect:

 

North - Meter Point Administration Numbers (MPANs) starting 15, 16, 17, 18, 23 South - MPANs 10, 11, 12, 13, 19, 20, 21, 22
Uses radio signal - doesn’t depend on mobile signal strength Uses mobile signal

 

For this reason, we wouldn't normally recommend having smart meters installed in communal cupboards or basements, in areas which use a mobile signal.  If the meter cupboard doesn’t have strong enough signal this can lead to smart meter communication issues.

 

The other issue with blocks of flats is that, sometimes, our engineer won’t be able to replace the meter without cutting power to other flats. This is something you can check with the landlord or facilities management company before making the appointment. You can find out more about this here:

 

 

 

What if the meters aren’t in the same place?

 

This can also cause some issues for flat-dwelling smart meters. As the gas meter needs to be within range of the communications hub (which is attached to the electricity meter) it may not be able to communicate with us if the meters are too far apart. We wouldn't currently advise booking a dual smart meter installation if the meters are on different floors within a block of flats.
 

 

If I’m not affected by the issues above can I get an installation booked?

 

Of course! Click here to book today - just make sure you’re able to get access to the meter cupboard on the day of the installation.

 

 

Will the In Home Display work if the smart meter isn’t in my flat?

 

The In Home Display (IHD) needs to be near the electricity meter, which houses the communications hub, connecting devices to the smart meter via the Home Area Network (HAN). So if your flat isn’t right next to your meter, your IHD may not work. However, we do now have specialist kit that can improve the signal in these instances, so it may also be possible to set up the IHD.

 

The smart meter itself will still be able to send us your readings even if the IHD isn’t possible, which gives you access to some great usage graphs on your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS):

 

 

 

OVO customer but not got a smart meter yet? - Book today!

Interested but not yet an OVO customer? - Check out our plans!

Newcomer
October 25, 2017
We've had invitation from ovo about smart meter installation however when we were with bgas they informed us they didn't have technology to do ours yet. This is because we live in a flat (ground floor) and our gas meter is in the kitchen but our electric meter is outside by our door. There is a distance of about 9-10 meters between them which bgas said was too far at the moment? Any thoughts please..
buzzhunter
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Newcomer
October 25, 2017
We also live in a ground floor flat, with the electric meter by the shared front door and the gas meter down the outside of the building, in the driveway. We've had smart meters installed and we're getting readings from both gas and electric, so it looks like there's no problem. Presumably there shouldn't be a problem for you either.🆒
Buzz
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December 12, 2017
Hi
OVO keeps asking me if I want a smart meter... duh, of course I do. But every time I discuss this I get stopped when OVO learns I have a gas meter in a cupboard on the ground floor and an electricity meter in my flat.
Will this ever be resolved? Surely there's a way that a slave meter can talk to a main smart meter somewhere else? I can't be the only person with this issue?
John
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January 23, 2018
So I live in a flat where my Electric meter is in a communal cupboard in the main hallway and my gas meter is outside MY front door. They are about 30ft apart (as the crow flies through Victorian walls) and when the guy came to fit the meters he didn't think they would work as the gas meter has to be able to communicate with the electric meter - but he fitted the electric meter and that was working, then he tested the gas meter next to the electric meter and it was ok- Then the gas meter was fitted in the box and it couldn't talk to the electric meter any more. He said that the display unit would work as a relay for the two - but it didn't. So he took the whole lot out and put the old stuff back. Total waste of my day (which I took as holiday) and the engineer knew that it wouldn't work. Should energy companies have to do a site visit first with some test kit before wasting a customers time (and no offer of compensation). This 'smart' technology is far from smart!
Lucy_OVO
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Retired Moderator
January 25, 2018
I understand that this is frustrating @tubs, but we won’t be able to know if there will be any communication issues until the smart meters are fitted.

It sounds like there are some things that are blocking the signal as your electricity meter is in a cupboard in your hallway and the gas meter is outside. This means that the signal will have to pass through the cupboard doors and your front door, as well as the meters being about 30ft apart.

I hope the Social Team are able to help you further with this as they’ll be able to diagnose what the problem is and suggest some suitable resolutions.

Lucy
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MickyDee
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Newcomer
February 8, 2018
I live in a first floor apartment. I was a British Gas customer before joining OVO and had smart meters installed, the Electricity one in the hallway outside my front door (1st floor) and the Gas which is located externally on the ground floor just outside of the entrance door. They are both Landis Gyr units communicating via a Trilliant WAN and worked perfectly well.

I applied with Ovo for Smart meters to be installed, but just get a message saying that they cannot be installed due to being too far apart, without any survey being carried out.

My question is: Are OVO's Smart meters inferior to the BG ones and if so, why?
M Dewi
Newcomer
February 10, 2018
I'm not an expert but I have a notion that may be relevant.

Our Ovo smart meters use wireless networking to transmit their data. But as I understand it, one of them is the 'master' that has the full networking kit installed, and one is a 'slave' that just relays its data to the master for onwards transmission. So they have to be positioned very close together for this to work.

Not necessarily inferior, but different.
MickyDee
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Newcomer
February 12, 2018
Thanks for your answer Stewiris.

I'm pretty sure that is how the BG system works, so the question still remains.
M Dewi