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THTC credit meters change to Smart meter.
This is our present THTC RTS setup. The meters are in an access corridor, the consumer units within the flat. I booked a smart meter appointment and OVO’s sub turned up in December and said a smart meter instal was impossible, grumbled about lack of communication about the instal he was going to and was meant to make a report to OVO. It appears that was sketchy as when I asked OVO about it, it didnt seem to give much detail. The installer did say 10-20% of installations were similar. As nothing seemed to be happening I raised a complaint. I was then told OVO wanted me to at my expense instal blocks at the high rate consumer unit for them to connect to. When I asked for more detail they came back and said they couldn’t instal a smart meter but were working on a two meter solution which might have to be legacy meters. This of course leaves the issue that if they put in a simple time switch low rate meter the present 24/7 low rate feed to the panel heaters and upper immersion is restricted to the low rate timed hours, which is unacceptable. i spoke to a local electrical firm a ferry ride away who say the answer would be from OVO to supply a 5 port smart meter and for them , not OVO since they refuse to do it, to reroute the 24/7 feed to panel heaters etc to be fed from the high rate feed to the other consumer unit. They suggested getting them to do this wiring swap just before OVO appeared to do the meter change once I get a date. I hve put this to OVO and await a response.OVO have described themselves to me as a “meter operator” I don’t think this is how the Regulator would view them. I also asked OVO to clarify that they would bypass the RTS switch box when they put in the new meter and would not be expecting me to get another electrician visit. I wait a response, delayed as it sat in their resolutions department as my contact was on holiday. I would be interested to hear if the suggestion I have been given sounds the answer. I know our existing two meter setup is not unique as a neighbouring flat with two credit meters is the same. Are others having a similar unsatisfactory and slow experience. 30th June is getting close. I am aware that in the same building there are a fair number of THTC/RTS 5port prepayment meters but they are single not dual meter setups and are more modern than mine but not smart so will also need changed. Alan
New dual tariff smart meter stopped recording night rate
Hello, we’ve recently (late Feb) had a dual tariff polyphase smart meter installed in response the RTS shutdown. We have two phases as we have underfloor heating, so it has been a long protracted affair in getting our old legacy meters replaced with an Economy 7 polyphase compatible smart meter. This was done back in February, credit where credit’s due, the three phase trained OVO engineer was brilliant. The meter signals the off peak period to our underfloor heating controller, this has worked correctly since the switch. Just to be on the safe side, we took daily readings from our old meters just before the switch and daily afterwards so have a good idea on our daily consumption and to check for constancy old/new. We have the Kaifa MA329B We’ve been away for a few days and returned home last night and realised our new smart meter has stopped recording usage on the T2 tariff register. Virtually all usage since we were away is on T1 only. This points to something being amiss. Points to note/events since we were away: 1. We had a planned power cut of 9 hours notified in advance by our DNO. 2. We had a second unplanned outage of c2 hours two days later 3. The IHD had a new message “Elec meter initialised” when we turned it on 4. We have new charge rates since 1 Apr (like others on a variable rate tariff). The IHD correctly reports the new E7 day tariff. 5. We did not get the 1 hour new tariff countdown on the IHD from 2300 last night. After 2400 the meter was still registering T1, it should have switched to T2. 6. Our underfloor heating failed to trigger on. 7. Our OVO account still correctly lists us being on Economy 7. This seems to point to a faulty meter or config as a result of the power outages perhaps?? Additionally our smart meter has only sent one pair of readings since installation, on 21 March which was the end of our last billing period, our account is listed as every 30 min for readings and settlement. This doesn’t sound right either. Any advice, knowledge or input would be really appreciated. Many thanks!
Old Economy 7 set up needing to be changed for the signal switch off in June
Hi everyone. My elderly parents are extremely clinically vulnerable (88 and 90, numerous health issues inc COPD, heart disease and lower leg amputation). I know the radio signal is being switched off and I need to ring and get them a smart meter fitted. I have been holding off as they still have their heating on full time, and I couldn’t risk anything going wrong/them being without heat for even 1 day. Now it’s warming up and they will be switching the heating off soon, I am ringing up to book an engineer appointment. I have enclosed some pics of the set up. This meter is decades old (they are the generation that if something worked, they just plodded on with it for years). They migrated from SSE to Ovo. They have an economy 7 set up I believe with an afternoon boost to their storage heathers (all electric house, no gas). They also have an economy 7 immersion heater which gets the same overnight and afternoon boost. My question is: is this a set up that can be switched over to smart meter or does anything have to change compared to how they have it now? I have calculated a whole previous years’ bills and bc they have the heating on for at least 7 months of the year, it is barely any different to what a single rate would cost. Their bills are broken into off peak rate, peak rate and heating rate (I input 3 sets of readings on the ovo website). Because they have storage heaters we need to be able to have overnight boost and afternoon boost. Thanks for reading :)

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