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Why have my Aclara SMETS 2 smart meter readings reset to 0 on my OVO online account?

  • September 28, 2020
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I’ve had my smart meter (SMETS2 Aclara) for about a year running pretty much flawlessly, however I have just discovered that last week my meter’s electricity reading has reset itself from 1306 (day reading) back to 0. It has also reset the night counter to 0 and the night reading has not increased since then (still 0 after a week). At around the same time my IHD (Chameleon Type 1) stopped displaying any electricity readings. The new readings have been transmitted and recorded by OVO. Can anyone help with this?

Gas meter readings and display on the IHD are totally unaffected.

Best answer by Tim_OVO

Updated on 13/09/23 by Abby_OVO

 

This is a strange one! Firstly as the smart meter usage data has also disappeared from your In-Home Display it might be worth carrying out a smart meter health check for your meter type below to help diagnose any communication issues:

 

 

Whilst smart meters are known to lose communication from time to time, isn’t known to reset the meter reading. We’ve checked in with the Smart meter experts who haven’t seen this error reported before, so sounds like you might be experiencing an account-specific technical issue.

 

It’s possible that the meter readings you’ve seen on your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS) are in fact estimated rather than actual readings received from the meter. You could confirm this by taking a reading from the smart meter itself, or by contacting the Support Team. Either way we’ll probably have to raise this to our tech team so it’s worth taking a screenshot of the erroneous readings you’ve noticed and emailing this to the team for further investigations.

 

I hope we can get to the bottom of this one quickly for you so you can get back to enjoying the many benefits that smart meters bring:slight_smile:

 

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Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
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September 29, 2020

This is an interesting one, thanks for posting and giving such a clear title and description @JP9000 - let’s get on with fixing it!

 

First port of call is to refer to the SMETS2 Aclara smart meter health check here - that will give you a range of options to see if the meter is still communicating with us, and the IHD (WAN and HAN) and will allow you to check the readings (just in case it’s been checked wrong). 

 

Can you do this and leave a comment below with the latest? 

 

Spoiler alert: if you don’t spot anything that might explain this, it’s likely something that’s changed at our end, so our Support team would be the next port of call. 

 

It would be good to hear from you about those checks first though….

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Transparent
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September 29, 2020

Fascinating, @JP9000. I always look forward to such innovative/obscure errors to help brighten the day. :sun_with_face:

Can you please tell us here, the flash-rates of the LED indicators on your Communications Hub?

When did the fault occur?

Does it yet show up on your Online Account usage-graphs?

Thanks

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JP9000Author
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September 29, 2020

Hi @Tim_OVO  and @Transparent,  and thank you for responding.

 

I have carried out your recommended health check and everything seems in order. The LED indicators all flash at a regular 5 second interval (excluding MESH which stays dark).

 

The fault seems to have occurred either 19/09/2020 or 20/09/2020, and OVO are now receiving new readings  starting from 0 and Economy 7 night readings seem to have stopped completely.

 

Here are screenshots of my readings and usage according to OVO. Note 19/09/2020 on the usage graph is displaying a large negative value, and the change in the readings from 20/09/2020 onwards.

 

Transparent
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Rank 20
September 29, 2020

That’s excellent feedback, @JP9000 

I’m very interested to see that you’re getting a large negative reading on electricity. I’ve reported similar errors on gas readings over the last couple of months. You can view my screenshots over here where we’re discussing errors in the presentation of the Billing System.

Your report is not the same as the rest of us are discussing because you’ve actually had the meter reset itself to something akin to the factory-default condition. This should never happen because it suggests it might be possible to alter the memory in the meter, and send erroneous readings to the Comms Hub.

The Smart Meters actually have some hidden anti-tamper devices which send an alert to the Energy Supplier if anyone were to try this.

I confirm that the LED indicators are doing exactly what they should to show that the data communications are functional. The Mesh indicator is off because you have an SKU1 Comms Hub. That is correct.

Whilst we’re looking into this, please be assured that you will not lose out financially due to this technical fault. OVO have enough data to provide very accurate assessment of your true usage on both tariff rates.

 

@Tim_OVO wrote:

Spoiler alert: if you don’t spot anything that might explain this, it’s likely something that’s changed at our end,

I doubt that, Tim. If the physical ESME has set its display back to 0000, then it’s nothing like we’ve seen before. Something has happened within the electricity meter itself.

Worse still, neither the Comms Hub nor your Billing System has performed a sanity check to alert you that the meter has lost all its settings (including the E7 configuration).

I’m assuming your S2 Team will want the meter recovered “as is” rather than attempt to reconfigure it remotely.

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Tim_OVO
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Tim_OVOSolved
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September 30, 2020

Updated on 13/09/23 by Abby_OVO

 

This is a strange one! Firstly as the smart meter usage data has also disappeared from your In-Home Display it might be worth carrying out a smart meter health check for your meter type below to help diagnose any communication issues:

 

 

Whilst smart meters are known to lose communication from time to time, isn’t known to reset the meter reading. We’ve checked in with the Smart meter experts who haven’t seen this error reported before, so sounds like you might be experiencing an account-specific technical issue.

 

It’s possible that the meter readings you’ve seen on your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS) are in fact estimated rather than actual readings received from the meter. You could confirm this by taking a reading from the smart meter itself, or by contacting the Support Team. Either way we’ll probably have to raise this to our tech team so it’s worth taking a screenshot of the erroneous readings you’ve noticed and emailing this to the team for further investigations.

 

I hope we can get to the bottom of this one quickly for you so you can get back to enjoying the many benefits that smart meters bring:slight_smile:

 

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Interested but not yet an OVO member? - Check out our plans!

 

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Transparent
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September 30, 2020

That’s a very sensible response at this stage.

@JP9000- this is the moment when you need to tell the OVO Engineers all the things that are site-specific so they can start putting together the evidence before pulling your Electricity Smart Meter back into their Test-lab.

Include anything which comes to mind, including detail on things like:

  • roughly how old is the house wiring?
  • photo of each consumer unit (standard and off-peak)
  • does your house have an earth stake?
  • what loads are connected to Economy-7?
  • how do you heat the house?
  • do you have an electric vehicle?
  • what was the weather like on 19/20th Sept?
  • apart from the Smart Meters and IHD has any other electrical device gone faulty or needed resetting?

I hope that’s enough for you to see the type of background information which is useful at this stage.

Tim’s asking for this by email so that you don’t post specifics about your household here on the open Forum. But we’re obviously able to assist if you need anything clarified. Just let us know.

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JP9000Author
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September 30, 2020

Thanks for all your advice @Tim_OVO and @Transparent.

I have now sent an email with as much information as I could provide. I will keep you advised as things progress.

JP9000Author
Rank 1
October 10, 2020

Update: After 9 days I finally received a first response from hello@ovoenergy.com.

Frustratingly, this response was essentially asking me to go back to square one and do the health check as requested by @Tim_OVO previously. I appreciate they have to start with the basics as part of the process, but it has taken 9 days for them to, essentially, ask me to repeat myself. I tried to be thorough in my original email to avoid this situation (a full explanation and a link to this thread was provided). :expressionless:

Transparent
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Rank 20
October 11, 2020

I wouldn’t regard that level of response as acceptable, @JP9000 

Customer Services is organised in three tiers. I think you should’ve been escalated to a higher level. The response you’ve received is typical of the first-level checks which would be undertaken to ensure that the symptoms are being properly reported.

There’s also the SMETS2 Engineers who tend to have cases referred to them when the symptoms are particularly unusual and require technical analysis. A meter resetting to 0000 is unheard-of, and I would expect the S2 Team to be involved.

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Tim_OVO
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October 12, 2020

Update: After 9 days I finally received a first response from hello@ovoenergy.com.

Frustratingly, this response was essentially asking me to go back to square one and do the health check as requested by @Tim_OVO previously. 

 

 

:confounded:

 

I wouldn’t regard that level of response as acceptable, @JP9000 

 

 

Agree! I’ll PM you now, @JP9000 to get some details from you, find the response and pass on some feedback. 

 

In the meantime, I would recommend jumping the queue and calling or using web chat. Find our details here. The info in this thread is enough for a 17 working day ‘faulty meter’ appointment to be booked, with job notes about the issue. Maybe even a case raised alongside this to our Smart ‘second line’ team, to make sure we feedback the issue to whoever it needs to go to, likely the meter manufactures. 

 

 

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