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Gas usage not showing online after SMETS2 smart meter fitting - any ideas?

  • January 21, 2019
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In response to OVO's 'encouragement', our 'smart' meter system (so far, marked only by its dumbness) was fitted on 18th December. The IHD (In Home Display) shows some (and inconsistent) info about electricity usage and none about gas - I note that other contributors have flagged this problem.

Compared with the known power rating of various appliances (I tend to use our microwave since it is programmable for a wide range of different power outputs), the IHD is showing much higher electricity usage that I would have expected.

So far, there is no info at all on the OVO website regarding our gas usage and, as elderly people, my wife and I struggle to press the buttons and read the figures on the new gas meter - that is equipped with an entirely blank display...

OVO customer support promised that someone would arrange to visit and check the system within five days of my notifying the problem. Nothing has happened - except for a further email politely telling me to shut up and wait. I can provide these emails if needed.

At the very least, I need to be able to compare power usage now with the historical readings I have supplied for several years in order to check the accuracy of the meters - but this information is no longer readily available when I log in.

As you can see, this is very frustrating and worrying - gas and electricity costs are major issues for pensioners. I would welcome some proper (and understandable) information and, of course, solutions to these problems.

Best answer by Transparent

Updated on 11/07/24 by Abby_OVO

 

Sorry to hear that it hasn’t been smooth sailing since you had your new smart meters installed.


As the meters have only just been installed, the missing data could be down to the meters still being in the process of being updated on your account. It can take up to 6 weeks for them to be fully up and running - this is due to the some background work we need to do both on your account and with the meters themselves - you can see a full technical breakdown of this process on this great user guide and in the comment below.

If it’s been longer than 6 weeks since you had the meters fitted and you’re still not seeing the really useful usage data either of your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS) or the In Home Display (IHD), it might be that there’s a communication issue that we’ll need to investigate. We’d advise completing a smart meter health check and contacting our Support Team with the results.

Hope this info helps and you get the teething issues resolved quickly so you can start enjoying the benefits of your new smart setup! :slight_smile:

 

 

Before OVO can provide the correct data, there is a process which gets completed which is out of their hands. This includes:

a. Notification being sent by the Meter Installer to ECOES (the National Meter database) which identifies the Meter Reference numbers, the readings on the old meters and the readings on the new meters (which may not be zero!)

b. ECOES sends a Notification to DCC (Data Communications Company) to establish an encrypted link to your new Smart Meters and undertake tests.

c. ECOES sends Notification to your Energy Supplier (OVO) providing the readings. OVO must check these against your billing record and confirm to ECOES that the readings are valid... in that they are constent with what was expected for the exchange date.

d. ECOES Notifies DCC that OVO are the Supplier who is permitted to pass control data to your meters. DCC acknowledge and send a copy to OVO.

e. OVO send your tariff data to your Meters (which gets used by your IHD to inform you how much you're spending).

f. OVO check the usage-stats since your SMETS2's were installed and send a correction-factor to the meters to allow for inaccuracies.

 

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27 replies

PeterR1947
Newcomer
Newcomer
January 21, 2019
Reading your gas smart meter is easy, simply press the "9" key, the end of a pen or pencil is best for this. First it gives you the volume in cubic meters which is what you need to submit to OVO, followed by the kWh and other details you don't need.

If your smart meter isn’t giving OVO your meter readings though, this could indicate that there is a problem with the signal. To get this checked out, contact the Social team on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ovoenergy/ or Twitter - https://twitter.com/OVOEnergy. They’ll be able to run through some questions with you to help determine if it’s a communication issue with your smart meter.
PeterR
BartAuthor
Rank 1
January 22, 2019
Thanks, but we do not belong to Facebook or Twitter and have no wish to be part of them. As I mentioned, I have already contacted customer support (on several occasions) and have been told that the matter is in hand, and that someone will be in touch to arrange a visit. This has not happened. Presumably, customer support should be able to arrange this if they present it as the next step.

I will take a gas reading using the instruction you provide (thanks) but should point out that OVO told me that this would no longer be necessary - this is a reason ordinary consumers agree to having smart meters fitted. We seem to be going backwards here!

OVO has been much better than any other supplier we have experienced - until this point. I do feel that there must be a fault in OVO's administration if customer support is unable to arrange adequate help for people who are not on social media...
Transparent
Rank 20
Rank 20
January 22, 2019

Updated on 11/07/24 by Abby_OVO

 

Sorry to hear that it hasn’t been smooth sailing since you had your new smart meters installed.


As the meters have only just been installed, the missing data could be down to the meters still being in the process of being updated on your account. It can take up to 6 weeks for them to be fully up and running - this is due to the some background work we need to do both on your account and with the meters themselves - you can see a full technical breakdown of this process on this great user guide and in the comment below.

If it’s been longer than 6 weeks since you had the meters fitted and you’re still not seeing the really useful usage data either of your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS) or the In Home Display (IHD), it might be that there’s a communication issue that we’ll need to investigate. We’d advise completing a smart meter health check and contacting our Support Team with the results.

Hope this info helps and you get the teething issues resolved quickly so you can start enjoying the benefits of your new smart setup! :slight_smile:

 

 

Before OVO can provide the correct data, there is a process which gets completed which is out of their hands. This includes:

a. Notification being sent by the Meter Installer to ECOES (the National Meter database) which identifies the Meter Reference numbers, the readings on the old meters and the readings on the new meters (which may not be zero!)

b. ECOES sends a Notification to DCC (Data Communications Company) to establish an encrypted link to your new Smart Meters and undertake tests.

c. ECOES sends Notification to your Energy Supplier (OVO) providing the readings. OVO must check these against your billing record and confirm to ECOES that the readings are valid... in that they are constent with what was expected for the exchange date.

d. ECOES Notifies DCC that OVO are the Supplier who is permitted to pass control data to your meters. DCC acknowledge and send a copy to OVO.

e. OVO send your tariff data to your Meters (which gets used by your IHD to inform you how much you're spending).

f. OVO check the usage-stats since your SMETS2's were installed and send a correction-factor to the meters to allow for inaccuracies.

 

OVO member but not got a smart meter yet? - Book today!

 

Interested but not yet an OVO member? - Check out our plans!

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BartAuthor
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January 24, 2019
Thanks for your clear, detailed reply: I have found this genuinely helpful. I've waited a day or two before responding because there are still uncertainties buzzing around in my head. For example, I find it incomprehensible that the fitter who installed the kit should say to me: "It may take a couple of hours for the gas information to show up" when she (presumably) knew that 'two months' might be closer than 'two hours'. Nor do I understand why OVO customer support should say that someone would contact me within 5 working days to arrange follow-up when they must have known that this would not happen. I assume that they were trying to get me off their backs: it gives me no pleasure to be so stubborn and relentless about this but I feel that I was misled about what to expect.

As far as the meter is concerned, I should point out that some (incomplete) information was immediately available for electricity - so it is a puzzle that the delays should apply only to gas.

To be quite honest, I regret giving in to the hype and having the 'smart' meters fitted: I did not have the information then that I have now - surely, people should be told openly about these issues in advance so that they can choose on the basis that they are properly prepared for what is otherwise an unexpected and confusing outcome. Despite researching smart meters online, I had no expectation of these problems - perhaps these issues are buried somewhere in the small print (which is where bad news usually finds a home); if so, then I missed it.

Thanks again - and, as you advise, I will wait to see what happens (though I am still uneasy).
Transparent
Rank 20
Rank 20
January 24, 2019
Hi @Bart Yes, I can understand what you're saying. You weren't really made aware of what's involved. Had you been, then no doubt the whole process would've seemed a lot less frustrating.

I don't know about why you were informed to expect someone else to do "follow up" within 5 days. After the installation is completed, everything else can be done without needing to involve the customer... unless there's a physical fault of course.

In the long run I don't think you'll regret having SMETS2 meters.
I wish I had them!

SMETS2 enables so many future possibilities to be implemented within your home. Devices that aren't time-constrained such as
  • washing machine
  • tumble drier
  • storage radiator
  • immersion heater
can be configured to only draw power when it reaches a price threshold that you are happy to pay. Instead of the old idea of Economy-7, a customer might get offered a cheap-rate midday if there's a surfeit of renewable energy available.

Whether you ever decide to take advantage of such energy-saving features is entirely up to you, but you wouldn't have the option without SMETS2 meters.
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Newcomer
July 26, 2019
My electric usage has stopped showing on my second gen smart meter. I've switched off the smart meter display but still does not show on restart.

SW, WAN, HAN and GAS are flashing green on the electricity meter, MESH isn't flashing.

Any suggestions?

Paul
Amy_OVO
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Retired Moderator
July 29, 2019
Welcome to the forum, @Corskey, please check out @Transparent's best answer for further info.

Thanks!
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Transparent
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Rank 20
July 29, 2019
Hi @Corskey. The LED indicator flashes are probably correct. The flash-speed matters.

Have a look at the animated diagram I posted here. Very few of us have a MESH network on our Communication Hub.
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Barnabee
Newcomer
Newcomer
August 5, 2019
It is just about 8 weeks since my SMETS2 meters were installed. Both are working correctly and I can see my half hour usage for gas and electrity using the OVO app.

I have had a closing statement for the usage from my old gas meter and statements for the the usage of the new meter.

However I have had no billing for my old electric meter closing usage and have not had any statements for the electric usage since the new meter was installed at all.

Whilst it's nice that my credit is building up I think by now both gas and electric accounts should be in order.

Coupled with this I still have a really useless IHD that has been waiting for data since it was activated by OVO. It has never worked despite carrying out all of the remedies suggested. (Photo)

So should I contact OVO again or should I be even more patient and wait?

Amy_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
August 6, 2019

I've moved your post here, @Barnabee, please check out @Transparent's best answer.

I'd recommend getting in touch with our team to check over the billing on your account.

You can send us a message on FacebookTwitter and our Help Centre has online chat. Or give them a call, you can reach our Customer Care team 9-5 Monday-Friday on 0330 303 5063.

Hope this helps!

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