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Why have Standing Charges also increased so much with the Energy Crisis?

  • October 4, 2022
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Ovo increased their electricity standing charge massively in April. I have asked them to itemise what the Standing Charge covers and then justify the increase - they are refusing to do this.

The Standing Charge should relate to the actual cost that Ovo has delivering electricity to your home. Those costs did not substantially increase in April.

Wholesale gas price rises meant that the unit cost of electricity went up but that should not have affected the Standing Charge.

Ovo have just taken the maximum that Ofgem allow the Standing Charge to be decided to charge it.

You can try to avoid unit costs by cutting back on usage, but you cannot avoid the Standing Charge.

Customers need to band together and get them to justify the increase.

Best answer by Jeffus

Updated on 15/01/25 by Abby_OVO

If suppliers charge less for the standing charge than the maximum allowed, they can then charge more for the units supplied.  Such a move would favour lower than average users of energy and penalise larger users.

 

But since energy SUPPLY companies all claim to be losing money at the moment, they will set their charges to maximise income to ensure losses are as small as possible.  Remember 20+ companies went bust last year - is that what you want?

 

I think you are on a loser with this notion.

The wholesale cost of gas increased resulting in the cost of electricity generation increasing, it did not affect the cost of delivering electricity to the home which is what the Standing Charge is supposed to be for.

I expect the unit cost of electricity to rise substantially but not the Standing Charge. I can avoid the unit costs by cutting back on usage but I cannot avoid the Standing Charge.

You have your argument back to front. Raising the Standing Charge penalises small users of electricity who are subsidising larger users through inflated Standing Charges.

 

 

Unfortunately the standing charge has increased for many reasons. 

 

1. The cost of all the failed suppliers apart from Bulb has been loaded on the standing charge and front loaded rather than being spread over a very long time as some energy companies suggested. There will be more of these costs still to come unfortunately and the government could yet decide to load all the costs of Bulb onto standing charges, many billions of pounds.

2. The number of people eligible for the warm home discount has increased. These are funded via the standing charge currently. 

3. Ofgem moved some of the network related costs from the unit rate to standing charges. At the same time network related costs have increased as inflation has risen, both material costs and wages have gone up. We have all seen what has happened to inflation generally. Also we need  upgrade the infrastructure as we move to renewable energy, heat pumps and electric cars, hence again the standing charge is increasing. There have been recent changes where new generation capacity is not required to contribute to the upgrade costs, this again will transfer costs from the unit rate to standing charges. 

These are just some examples, there are others i could give. 

The majority of standing charge has nothing to do with OVO, they are simply passing on costs from others and government schemes. 

Unfortunately there is no good news about the level of standing charge unless the government decide to shift costs to general taxation or to the unit rate which would benefit low energy users. While inflation is high, standing charges will continue to be under pressure unfortunately.

There did use to be tariff with low or no standing charge, but higher unit rates but these have long gone. For a short while there were even tariff with a fixed monthly cost irrespective of how much you used. My mum was on one of these tariff, these tariffs didn't last long for obvious reasons…

Personally i would prefer to see lower standing charges and some of the cost shifted to unit rates to benefit low energy users, but some people would be worse off obviously. 

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juliamc
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May 31, 2023

Is that for one fuel only? Electricity or gas ? Mine is 72.68p for both fuels. It does vary with region, I’m in S E England.

Jeffus
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May 31, 2023

@damnedtemplar 

What do you see on this page for standing charges?

https://account.ovoenergy.com/plan

This will be the rates excluding VAT on this page that you are paying. 

You can see the rates for your region for all tariff here to check. Just enter your post code 

https://plans.ovoenergy.com/

Are they the same? 

Newcomer
May 31, 2023

@damnedtemplar

What do you see on this page for standing charges?

https://account.ovoenergy.com/plan

This will be the rates excluding VAT on this page that you are paying. 

You can see the rates for your region for all tariff here to check. Just enter your post code 

https://plans.ovoenergy.com/

Are they the same? 

perfect that link really helped it appears is is correct thanks

Jeffus
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Rank 20
June 1, 2023

@damnedtemplar

What do you see on this page for standing charges?

https://account.ovoenergy.com/plan

This will be the rates excluding VAT on this page that you are paying. 

You can see the rates for your region for all tariff here to check. Just enter your post code 

https://plans.ovoenergy.com/

Are they the same? 

perfect that link really helped it appears is is correct thanks

Regional rates vary a bit unfortunately on the default variable plans. 

What you will nearly always see in the press are average unit rates and standing charges, so some regions will pay a  bit more and some a bit less.

You will also find slightly different rates across suppliers sometimes as the Ofgem price cap is a cap not a floor, suppliers can choose to offer their default tariff with lower rates.  Here is one example where Octopus lowered the standing charge last year, but they have yet to announce what will happen when the new cap kicks in on 1st July

https://octopus.energy/press/octopus-takes-stand-against-standing-charges-with-40m-package/

juliamc
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June 1, 2023

Good idea about their standing charge holiday.. I wonder how that went ? 

Jeffus
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June 1, 2023

Good idea about their standing charge holiday.. I wonder how that went ? 

Yep, it is a very simple idea that could be expanded. 

Mobile and Broadband suppliers have social tariff, so it is not impossible for Energy Companies to introduce something similar, either mandatory or voluntarily 

 

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February 23, 2024

Why is my more than my electric usage 

Emmanuelle_OVO
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February 23, 2024

Hey @Gmelville,

 

Unfortunately OVO don’t offer a tariff without standing charges. There may be some other companies out there that do, so if you’re a low user it might be worth looking into switching.

 

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jmshrrsn
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Newcomer
July 31, 2024

Maybe try Googling it? I found loads of helpful results just now

Could you share those with the community here. That would be helpful. 

JH Devizes
jmshrrsn
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July 31, 2024

I’m surprised several people here seem so happy to have their money bail out failed energy companies (in some cases where people with no experience of running an energy supplier have been allowed to do so), by paying the maximum standing charge allowed. 
 

What on earth happened to Thatcher’s utopian dream of deregulation (it’s a regulated industry), competition (there is no real competition when people choose to lower their usage but are then penalised by effectively subsidising higher users through the standing charge) and the operation of a free market (there is no free market when the state still has to intervene and regulate). 
 

There’s also the small issue of who owns these companies and therefore where your money and mine ends up. 
 

The utilities industry simply isn’t working in the interests of the general population. .
 

Water, energy, transport etc., along with education and healthcare are essential to the sane operation of a country. 
 

Such essential human needs should not be benefiting a few wealthy senior executives, or be so biased towards keeping shareholders on board, while transparency with customers goes by the wayside. 
 

Energy provision should go back into the hands of the people.

JH Devizes