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March 3, 2024
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Power Move- What is the point?

  • March 3, 2024
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I have read several comments, and it seems that like me, many are frustrated with the fact we never achieve our target!  I don’t use a washing machine at peak times, I only use the oven perhaps once a week for less than 30 mins, I often delay firing up the  central heating so the pump is not pulling power, and we watch TV with one small table light on.  How much more do I have to switch off?  It’s a big con!

Best answer by Tim a victim

Could not agree more with TonyC there is a big clue in the name. The purpose of the scheme is to encourage people not to turn on devices all at the same time as everyone else thus reducing the maximum demand on the grid which will mainly occur between 4 and 7 pm. In order to give an incentive they will give you a financial reward that reflects how much you are helping.

In my case we have an all electric house which has a heat pump and a high level of insulation. All I have to do is raise the temperature by 1 degree by 4 pm and then shut down the heating, the house will only lose about 2 degrees in 12 hours as it is so well insulated. 
we are heavy users as not only do we have all electric heating but also an electric car which we do not charge in the  the 4 to 7 window. Typically our consumption in the window is in the order of 5% as a result.

i would also fully endorse the use of monitoring plug sockets, you can move them from location to location and you may be surprised at the results. For example, we use more electrical energy on the TV ( a flat screen modern OLED type) in a week than we do using our washing machine and tumble drier a week and they are run about every other day. The TV uses very little per hour but it is on for many more hours than the Washing machine and tumble drier.

every household will be different, but by using these monitoring devices you can at least know what is worth worrying about and/or justify replacing things with more energy efficient items.

one other thing I have used these for is setting a schedule that turns off things late at night, in case you forget. Especially things like a light in the loft or in the garage which are all too easy to forget about as they are not usually visible when the loft hatch or garage door is closed.

Being a S.O.G. (Sad old git) as my offspring refer to me I have measured all our devices and pulled together a lot of data to identify phantom loads etc.

A man needs a hobby! I can bore for hours on the subject.

 

 

 

 

31 replies

Newcomer
March 4, 2024

Have to agree with @TonyC , @Blastoise186 etc. Don't understand users complaining that before 4 or after 7 is too early or late to eat. Why? Do they have complex medical dietary needs? My guess is no and it's simply a habit which they're not prepared to change.

Too many expect something for nothing. So tough!

By the way, achieved £15 target again in Feb, actually lowering my peak time percentage to under 5%. Not by moving any additional energy, simply using less as the days get longer. A couple of extra hours between 4 and 7 each day on the beach with my dogs, or in the garden with no tele, hi-fi or lights on soon adds up. And as a pensioner with diabetes and heart disease, my health has improved exponentially. My dogs also think it's Christmas every day! 

Put the effort in or stop whingeing!

As a matter of interest what time do you eat? All fine if you’re home all day, but what about those of us who work. Also if everyone shifts their heavy usage, will that eventually lead to us then overloading the system thus having to change to another 3 hour slot. Perhaps have a rota system, change main meal times so they’re different every week. Main meal at breakfast one week, second week main meal at lunchtime, third week main meal in the evening. Hope our digestive systems can deal with it. I know mine couldn’t when I worked shifts for 30 years. Eating a main meal in the middle of the night on a weeks night shift, 8pm when I was on a weeks back shift and 6pm when I was on early shift. Thankfully I retire in September where I’ll be spending three months in warmer climes. 

TonyC
Rank 4
Rank 4
March 4, 2024

Have a cooked breakfast and eat salad in the evening or cook earlier and keep it in a thermos.

Rank 5
March 4, 2024

Like many have said its NOTHING TO DO WITH REDUCING Usage, it's aimed at high usage users moving to outside peak times, that's the aim of power move. If you are a low usage house you will struggle and you'll struggle because it's NOT aimed at that type of user. 

We always meet the target, last month was around 8% peak time. We have an EV and its charged using ovo anytime ALWAYS out side of peak hours and it's our biggest user of electric in an all electric household everything else pales in to insignificance compared to the car. Last week the car used 66kwh and that was a low week, the next biggest demand was laundry at 24kwh. We try and avoid cooking between 4-7 and laundry is never done at peak times but for us the main thing is the EV.

 

March 4, 2024

I cannot understand why people post the same issue time after time.

“I have been away so have not used anything.”

“I sit in the cold and the dark.”

“I am a low user. What more do they want me to do?”

As @Blastoise186 keeps saying: The clue is in the name OVO Power Move, NOT OVO Power Reduce.

1: Read the T&Cs.

2: Read the FAQs.

3: Read other posts where this has been explained in great detail.

If you still have a genuine problem or query, go ahead and post. We will be happy to help.

Newcomer
March 5, 2024

Have to agree with @TonyC , @Blastoise186 etc. Don't understand users complaining that before 4 or after 7 is too early or late to eat. Why? Do they have complex medical dietary needs? My guess is no and it's simply a habit which they're not prepared to change.

Too many expect something for nothing. So tough!

By the way, achieved £15 target again in Feb, actually lowering my peak time percentage to under 5%. Not by moving any additional energy, simply using less as the days get longer. A couple of extra hours between 4 and 7 each day on the beach with my dogs, or in the garden with no tele, hi-fi or lights on soon adds up. And as a pensioner with diabetes and heart disease, my health has improved exponentially. My dogs also think it's Christmas every day! 

Put the effort in or stop whingeing!

As a matter of interest what time do you eat? All fine if you’re home all day, but what about those of us who work. Also if everyone shifts their heavy usage, will that eventually lead to us then overloading the system thus having to change to another 3 hour slot. Perhaps have a rota system, change main meal times so they’re different every week. Main meal at breakfast one week, second week main meal at lunchtime, third week main meal in the evening. Hope our digestive systems can deal with it. I know mine couldn’t when I worked shifts for 30 years. Eating a main meal in the middle of the night on a weeks night shift, 8pm when I was on a weeks back shift and 6pm when I was on early shift. Thankfully I retire in September where I’ll be spending three months in warmer climes. 

For years we couldn't eat until 7.30pm because my husband was never home from work earlier.  When we retired I enjoyed eating at an earlier time but now we've joined power move we have adjusted again and eat after 7pm or often at 3.30 because we can now please ourselves. I've never eaten normal meals at conventional times so it's easy for me to adapt.  I too have been a shift worker for 40 years and there's nothing I enjoy more than curry in the morning ... who cares if its odd or not normal 

 

waltyboy
Rank 8
Rank 8
March 5, 2024

“…there's nothing I enjoy more than curry in the morning ... who cares if its odd or not normal”. Or indeed cold, as I well remember from when I were but a carefree callow youff…

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Emmanuelle_OVO
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Retired Moderator
March 5, 2024

“…there's nothing I enjoy more than curry in the morning ... who cares if its odd or not normal”. Or indeed cold, as I well remember from when I were but a carefree callow youff…

 

Or indeed cold pizza! 🍕 😆

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Nukecad
Super User
Super User
March 5, 2024

Why cold though,

Make a curry or beef or chicken stew, or anything similar before 4pm and put it in a thermos.

If you have a second thermos then you can actually cook pasta, rice, barley, or other grains in it, just add boiling water and leave for an hour or two with an occasional shake (google ‘thermos cooking’).

Serve them up whenever you like.

If you don't fancy the thermos cooked pasta/grains then oven chips only take 10-12 mins in an air fryer. Or slice potatoes about 3 mm or 4mm thick, put in a bowl and cover with boiling water (oops kettle use there) and microwave for 10 mins

That short use of the air fryer/microwave should be OK and not affect your percentage much.

I live alone and yesterday I did liver and onions (batch cooked earlier and the rest frozen) in one pyrex bowl, plate on top, sliced raw spuds and frozen mixed veg in a second bowl on top with boiling water - 12 mins in the microwave and my tea was ready at 6:15 while still staying under percentage because the main cooking (of the liver) was done earlier.

I said, Hey - Watts going on.
Newcomer
March 6, 2024

Why cold though,

Make a curry or beef or chicken stew, or anything similar before 4pm and put it in a thermos.

If you have a second thermos then you can actually cook pasta, rice, barley, or other grains in it, just add boiling water and leave for an hour or two with an occasional shake (google ‘thermos cooking’).

Serve them up whenever you like.

If you don't fancy the thermos cooked pasta/grains then oven chips only take 10-12 mins in an air fryer. Or slice potatoes about 3 mm or 4mm thick, put in a bowl and cover with boiling water (oops kettle use there) and microwave for 10 mins

That short use of the air fryer/microwave should be OK and not affect your percentage much.

I live alone and yesterday I did liver and onions (batch cooked earlier and the rest frozen) in one pyrex bowl, plate on top, sliced raw spuds and frozen mixed veg in a second bowl on top with boiling water - 12 mins in the microwave and my tea was ready at 6:15 while still staying under percentage because the main cooking (of the liver) was done earlier.

“ why cold” … Because often cold curry tastes so much better than hot … especially for breakfast!

Newcomer
June 6, 2024

We joined the power move scheme in the winter and did the best we could by avoiding as much electricity consumption during the peak hours. We are low consumers generally. Typical electric consumption is around 6kWh per day during the heating season. We achieved no rewards at all because there wasn’t much more we could have done. Background use that we can’t shut down pushed us outside the limits.

In May we shut down the oil boiler and activated the immersion heater. At this point of the year our electric consumption more or less doubles. The immersion timer is set for two 1 ½ hour periods a day. One at night, one mid afternoon. Of course, that changes the arithmetic and in May we achieved a reward under Power Move. This is daft. We get a reward for doubling our electric consumption.