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Power Move- What is the point?

  • March 3, 2024
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I have read several comments, and it seems that like me, many are frustrated with the fact we never achieve our target!  I don’t use a washing machine at peak times, I only use the oven perhaps once a week for less than 30 mins, I often delay firing up the  central heating so the pump is not pulling power, and we watch TV with one small table light on.  How much more do I have to switch off?  It’s a big con!

Best answer by Tim a victim

Could not agree more with TonyC there is a big clue in the name. The purpose of the scheme is to encourage people not to turn on devices all at the same time as everyone else thus reducing the maximum demand on the grid which will mainly occur between 4 and 7 pm. In order to give an incentive they will give you a financial reward that reflects how much you are helping.

In my case we have an all electric house which has a heat pump and a high level of insulation. All I have to do is raise the temperature by 1 degree by 4 pm and then shut down the heating, the house will only lose about 2 degrees in 12 hours as it is so well insulated. 
we are heavy users as not only do we have all electric heating but also an electric car which we do not charge in the  the 4 to 7 window. Typically our consumption in the window is in the order of 5% as a result.

i would also fully endorse the use of monitoring plug sockets, you can move them from location to location and you may be surprised at the results. For example, we use more electrical energy on the TV ( a flat screen modern OLED type) in a week than we do using our washing machine and tumble drier a week and they are run about every other day. The TV uses very little per hour but it is on for many more hours than the Washing machine and tumble drier.

every household will be different, but by using these monitoring devices you can at least know what is worth worrying about and/or justify replacing things with more energy efficient items.

one other thing I have used these for is setting a schedule that turns off things late at night, in case you forget. Especially things like a light in the loft or in the garage which are all too easy to forget about as they are not usually visible when the loft hatch or garage door is closed.

Being a S.O.G. (Sad old git) as my offspring refer to me I have measured all our devices and pulled together a lot of data to identify phantom loads etc.

A man needs a hobby! I can bore for hours on the subject.

 

 

 

 

31 replies

Newcomer
March 3, 2024

I feel the same we are pensioners in a 3 bed house . All that we have on during the period is tv , heating thermostat turned down  and one light when needed. Cook tea at this time usually using air fryer . Before 4is to early to eat and after 7 too late . We have smart plugs to make sure appliances not in use are all switched off when not in use . Even turned off oven so we have to reset clock anytime we want to use it . I think these targets are set with families in mind rather than for smaller households 

TonyC
Rank 4
Rank 4
March 3, 2024

Once again, I think lots of people have basic misunderstanding of how this works.

It's not about saving power but shifting when you use it to outside the hours of 1600 to 1900.

So shift your use of high energy stuff to outside those times or you will not get a credit.

Newcomer
March 3, 2024

I do achieved it but I live alone. I was tv on my ipad during 4 -7 I put my heating on before then turn it off just before 4. I have a few candles a light and enjoy a glass of wine instead of making a hot drink and eat at 7 . All very cosy and seem to achieve the target every month. Date are getting longer so it will be easier still.

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
March 3, 2024

I feel like I’ve said this before…

The mindset of “Before 4pm is too early and after 7pm is too late” is EXACTLY why the 4pm to 7pm peak period exists - and it’s also EXACTLY OVO Power Move exists in the first place.

If you want to play the game and win, you must be willing to shift your usage patterns outside of those times.

Oh, and turning off the oven at the wall when it’s just powering the clock will save you maybe 1Wh at best, which is nowhere near enough to realistically have any impact. You’ve gotta shift the heavy usage, not the light stuff!

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Rank 5
March 3, 2024

Could not agree more with TonyC there is a big clue in the name. The purpose of the scheme is to encourage people not to turn on devices all at the same time as everyone else thus reducing the maximum demand on the grid which will mainly occur between 4 and 7 pm. In order to give an incentive they will give you a financial reward that reflects how much you are helping.

In my case we have an all electric house which has a heat pump and a high level of insulation. All I have to do is raise the temperature by 1 degree by 4 pm and then shut down the heating, the house will only lose about 2 degrees in 12 hours as it is so well insulated. 
we are heavy users as not only do we have all electric heating but also an electric car which we do not charge in the  the 4 to 7 window. Typically our consumption in the window is in the order of 5% as a result.

i would also fully endorse the use of monitoring plug sockets, you can move them from location to location and you may be surprised at the results. For example, we use more electrical energy on the TV ( a flat screen modern OLED type) in a week than we do using our washing machine and tumble drier a week and they are run about every other day. The TV uses very little per hour but it is on for many more hours than the Washing machine and tumble drier.

every household will be different, but by using these monitoring devices you can at least know what is worth worrying about and/or justify replacing things with more energy efficient items.

one other thing I have used these for is setting a schedule that turns off things late at night, in case you forget. Especially things like a light in the loft or in the garage which are all too easy to forget about as they are not usually visible when the loft hatch or garage door is closed.

Being a S.O.G. (Sad old git) as my offspring refer to me I have measured all our devices and pulled together a lot of data to identify phantom loads etc.

A man needs a hobby! I can bore for hours on the subject.

 

 

 

 

Newcomer
March 3, 2024

I feel like I’ve said this before…

The mindset of “Before 4pm is too early and after 7pm is too late” is EXACTLY why the 4pm to 7pm peak period exists - and it’s also EXACTLY OVO Power Move exists in the first place.

If you want to play the game and win, you must be willing to shift your usage patterns outside of those times.

Oh, and turning off the oven at the wall when it’s just powering the clock will save you maybe 1Wh at best, which is nowhere near enough to realistically have any impact. You’ve gotta shift the heavy usage, not the light stuff!

Exactly this.

It is not about lowering usage, it is about *when* you use it. Putting a heavy-hitting appliance on between 4 & 7, you are not going to make it.

I think pensioners are in a better position to achieve this. My kids come home from school around four, and as a consequence, everything goes “on” at that time.

However, all the big consumers of energy are used outside of 4 until 7. The cooker, the dishwasher, the drier and the kettle (a flask is filled before 4 for any hot drinks in the peak period).  All clothes washing, with the exception of emergencies, is done on a weekday, “off peak”.

I don't know how much difference it makes, but we use USB battery packs to recharge devices (phones, consoles, etc.) during the peak period, and then recharge those packs “off peak”.

The whole cooking thing, I often see here people ‘complaining’ that 7pm is too late. Is it that much of a hardship to delay it by 90 minutes or so? Maybe have something cooked earlier in the day and have a ‘cold’ tea if it is too much to bear.

TonyC
Rank 4
Rank 4
March 3, 2024

I have found my smart meter display to be quite handy for spotting unusual activity. Normal, daytime, background usage is around 10p an hour in my house (13 cctv cameras, network servers, etc.

One day consumption was running unusually high by a few pence and I then found I had left all the lights on in the garage (4 x 5ft tubes).

The other quick way of identifying things that use a lot of power is to look for things that give out heat and are on for a long time. Eg my 55" TV, my desktop PC with 2 x 27" screens, left on most of the day. The cooker uses a lot, but it's typically only on for half an hour and the thermostat turns it off once it gets to temperature.

 

Newcomer
March 3, 2024

Surely the best way would be to make it cheaper during the off peak times 

Rank 2
March 3, 2024

Have to agree with @TonyC , @Blastoise186 etc. Don't understand users complaining that before 4 or after 7 is too early or late to eat. Why? Do they have complex medical dietary needs? My guess is no and it's simply a habit which they're not prepared to change.

Too many expect something for nothing. So tough!

By the way, achieved £15 target again in Feb, actually lowering my peak time percentage to under 5%. Not by moving any additional energy, simply using less as the days get longer. A couple of extra hours between 4 and 7 each day on the beach with my dogs, or in the garden with no tele, hi-fi or lights on soon adds up. And as a pensioner with diabetes and heart disease, my health has improved exponentially. My dogs also think it's Christmas every day! 

Put the effort in or stop whingeing!

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
March 3, 2024

Surely the best way would be to make it cheaper during the off peak times 

Thats what Time of Use tariffs do. OVO doesn't want to go that far right now 

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