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OVO SMETS1 Pipit In Home Display (IHD) - Why is my gas "history" section frozen?

  • April 8, 2022
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My SMETS1 Secure Pipit In Home Display (IHD) has a persistent problem in which it is unable to display gas usage statistics.

On power up the IHD display unit powers up as normal and connects to the HAN. After 2-3 minutes it downloads data from the external gas & electricity smart meters and then successfully displays current energy usage and yesterday’s consumption stats for both gas and electricity. Everything behaves as expected apart from the “History” display section. The “History” display for electricity usage is 100% fine. This shows up-to-date electricity usage stats. All is as expected.

The “History” display for gas consumption however is out of date and faulty. This doesn’t show any hour-by-hour gas consumption figures for today (only the cumulative total). The history figures shown are those for a 12-month period which ended many months ago and the display has remained “stuck” in this incorrect state since that date. I have checked the gas smart meter itself and this displays figures which all seem to be ok, the smart meter figures match those shown for my account on the Ovo website. Also, the website indicates that Ovo is successfully retrieving meter readings for both gas and electricity on a daily basis.

To me it seems unlikely that the IHD itself is faulty. Clearly, the IHD is out of sync with the Secure SMETS1 smart gas meter and is unable to retrieve up to date history stats. From research I’ve done elsewhere it is not clear to me whether 1) the gas usage stats are present and correct within the electricity smart meter/HAN comms unit but cannot be retrieved by the IHD display unit, or 2) the electricity smart meter is unable to retrieve these stats from the gas smart meter despite successfully being in communication with it to retrieve meter readings. One possible option I suppose might be to unpair/re-pair the IHD with the smart meter in order to reset the stats.

Would this be an appropriate solution? Any suggestions? Help please!

Best answer by Jess_OVO

Updated on the 19/07/24 by Abby_OVO

Hi and welcome to the OVO online community, @jrhayley.

 

A great question this one and one I don’t think we’ve seen here before. A quick mention here of our Pipit IHD guide which runs through the information that should be accessible on your device:

 

 

As you mention the current usage information is showing but the historic data isn’t I’m wondering whether we’ve been in regular communication with the meter. Have you checked the readings we’ve received via the ‘meter readings’ page of the OVO app (download for Android or iOS), any readings missing here could indicate a communication issue in which case we’d recommend carrying out a smart meter health check and contacting our Support Team with the results.

 

If the meters have been regularly communicating don’t forget you can also use the ‘Usage’ pages of your online account to view your historic usage data.

 

Let us know if this helps get things sorted. 

 

A suggestion from the team has been that this could be linked to the enrollment of your SMETS 1 meters recently, @jrhayley and @SimonW.

 

They’ve advised we may be able to run a remote process to get thinks back on track, so we’d love to hear if there’s an update once you’ve spoken to the team. 

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jrhayleyAuthor
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April 15, 2022

A quick further update. OVO Support have confirmed today that the meters at this address have been processed by DCC and were “adopted” on or around 6 July 2021. However, the gas history stats were already “stuck” for many months prior to this date suggesting that “Enrolment of SMETS1 Meters” by DCC is unlikely to be the principal cause of this issue. We now await further investigation by the OVO smart meter team. 

My personal best guess is that, if OVO were to un-pair, factory reset, and re-pair the IHD with the smart meters, then this would probably trigger a reset of both gas and electricity stats. The IHD would then be able to retrieve and store up-to-date stats from both meters. (Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be any way of doing a customer factory reset of the Secure IHD) 

@Blastoise186 Do you have any observations or thoughts on this issue?

jrhayleyAuthor
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April 18, 2022

@Jess_OVO Some further progress. I’ve been checking the gas smart meter for actual readings and have discovered that the incorrect “estimated bill” figure for gas as shown in the IHD photo above is also stored in the gas meter itself, thus the IHD is merely displaying a copy of wrong data already stored within the meter. I did this by pressing Button 1 on the meter keypad to display Current Day cost of consumption. As at 17.30 on 17.04.22 under the Credit/Using Now section this was displaying 21,287.22 kWh for consumption and £807.47 for estimated costs. By checking through OVO online account details we can see that these figures correspond almost exactly to cumulative gas usage and costs since DCC adoption of the meter took place in July 2021. So this would suggest that DCC enrolment is likely to be a significant factor and that it’s the meter that’s at fault here, not the IHD. Please note that there have been two changes of tariff on this account since July last year and that both of these tariff changes were handled correctly by the electricity smart meter.

I believe that the “stuck” History Data for gas issue is a separate problem which resides within the IHD itself. A firmware issue possibly?

Jess_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Staff
April 19, 2022

Thanks for the update, @jrhayley.

 

Glad to hear the Support Team were able to confirm the enrollment of your meter too. Still unsure whether the frozen history section might be related to this upgrade. Either way if you’ve mentioned this to the team they should have passed this on to the smart team for further investigation.

 

Keep us posted if you do notice any changes to the information shown on your device. 👌

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jrhayleyAuthor
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June 24, 2022

@Jess_OVO After a period of almost 3 months this problem unfortunately remains unresolved. As explained above there are two separate issues here - one directly affecting the gas smart meter which internally is displaying incorrect “estimated bill” figures for gas consumption, the other affecting the IHD which is in a “stuck” state and persistently displays “History” figures for gas consumption which are out of date and faulty. 

I now see that this thread is marked as “Solved” which is incorrect. As far as I can tell both of these issues remain unresolved. Please could you mark this thread as “awaiting resolution” and ascertain what steps are being taken to get a solution to the issues raised.

Blastoise186
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June 24, 2022

Hi @jrhayley ,

I think it’s probably worth mentioning that the Solved status on this forum thread is independent of whether your issue is actually resolved or not. Whenever there’s an answer on a question thread that is likely to help the community at large, it may be marked as the best answer at anytime.

We have no way of knowing whether the original problem got solved 95% of the time because users often don’t come back, so this is the best we can do.

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Jess_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Staff
June 27, 2022

I’m so sorry for the confusion, @jrhayley.

 

As mentioned by our community member, @Blastoise186, we may mark topics here as ‘resolved’ if we’ve given the best advice we’re able to offer on this public platform. Sometimes, as in your case, the ‘Best Answer’ we can give here would be to contact our Support Team, as they’re able to offer much more tailored advice, with full access to your account and the data we’re receiving from your smart meters.

 

If you haven’t already we’d recommend re-contacting the Support Team to report the ongoing issues with your Pipit IHD. They’ll be able to carry out some remote trouble-shooting or if these have failed to get things resolved they can request a replacement device for you.

 

In the meantime, we’d recommend using the ‘Usage’ pages of your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS) to monitor your smart meter usage data.

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jrhayleyAuthor
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July 6, 2022

Thanks both. Thanks @Blastoise186 and @Jess_OVO for the clarification. This helps me to understand the reasons for marking this forum thread as “Solved”.

Unfortunately, despite contacting and re-contacting the Support team to report ongoing issues this problem remains unresolved.

Rank 5
October 6, 2022

I was going to post this as a new question, then I saw that two other users have the same issue.

My data for gas also stopped Oct/Nov 2020.


 

My IHD is connected to the smart meters as the actual / current consumption is shown for both electricity and gas (current day / previous day),  however the history only works for electricity.

The gas history graphs have stopped updating Nov 2020. Just realised I’ve been meaning to look into this for nearly two years…  ….

Stuart

This shows that its getting current data as the gas use for today/yesterday is being shown. 
The above is the one showing the history not updating since mid November 2020. 
Same time period as the above user has posted and second user also stated that they have frozen at the same time. 

 

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
October 7, 2022

Hey @supercitybity,

 

Sorry for the issues you’re having.

 

In regards to the meter readings stopping as of the 1st November, this is a known issue. Most customers affected by this have seen their readings start again and the problem resolve itself. I’d advise contacting Support if we still aren’t getting readings by the start of next week. 

 

If we get any updates about this internally we’ll update these threads. 

 

With your gas usage graphs, are we in communication with the gas meter? Are we getting readings through shown on the Online Account? If it’s just the graphs I'd advise contacting Support about this one- it sounds like a tech issue. 

 

 

Hope this helps. 

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jrhayleyAuthor
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October 16, 2022

Oh dear. The advice you have given here @Emmanuelle_OVO appears to be wrong. You are suggesting that without any intervention this problem might resolve itself within a few days. This is blatantly untrue. In my case the problems started 2 years ago in the week beginning 30/11/2020. @supercitybity has exactly the same issue and you can see from Stuart's photos above that his problem also started in the same week, on or around 02/12/2020. So here we both are 2 years later and clearly the problem has not simply "resolved itself" - it is totally wrong to suggest that it will. In my case I raised this issue with OVO Support more than 6 months ago and at the time of writing the problems remain unresolved. I am still chasing OVO Energy for a solution.

You say that this is a "known issue". But if it's a known issue then where is the "known solution"? What is the long term solution and is there a workaround? If there is a known solution then please publish it.