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My Landis+Gyr E470 smart meter isn't communicating following my switch - what can I do?

  • August 20, 2020
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Smart meter not working at all now, gas hasn't worked since leaving Coop ....only had a problem since changing supplier which wasn't my choice the Coop migrated all their customers to another supplier.

Had an engineer booked for early this year but it was cancelled due to Covid-19 which I understood. Had no feedback from Ovo since. The Co-op had my meter installed and it worked perfectly until I changed supplier.

I understand after hearing a call from an Ovo customer with the same problem who called a radio 5 programme after being told by the ombudsman there was nothing they could do because a third party was involved, namely the National Data Base. So not holding out much hope that my problem will be fixed either. So back to  sending manual energy readings.

 

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Updated on 03/11/25 by Ben_OVO

Welcome to OVO!

Great question to ask about the function of your Landis and Gyr meter after switching to OVO. The communication of your meters will depend on whether you have S1 or S2 Landis and Gyr meters - as both these meters have the model name E470 it can be hard to tell but luckily we’ve broken it down a bit in the guide below:


What does a SMETS1 (S1) Landis+Gyr E470 look like?

 

Here’s an example of one installed by British Gas/Centrica:
 

 

There’s also another type of SMETS1 Landis+Gyr E470 smart meter, that looks like this:

 

Another type of SMETS1 meter. Notice the separate comms hub to the right...

 

The common characteristic of the SMETS1 versions is that they have a separate Communications (Comms) Hub next to the meter, such as the Trilliant SEAP-2001-V. If you’ve got one of these, your gas meter will also be SMETS1 and is probably a Landis+Gyr G370.



What does a SMETS2 (S2) Landis+Gyr E470 look like?


They never have a black border around the display, and will always have one green and one grey button - but might not be in the same places.
 

 

What happens if the meters aren’t communicating?


You can submit this easily each month on your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS). Unfortunately we won’t be able to get your In-Home Display (IHD) paired up to show your usage data until we’re able to communicate with the meter. As soon as your meter is updated, we’ll be in touch to let you know - at this point you can contact our Support Team to get the IHD back up and running.

 

If  we aren’t communicating with your meters, fill out this Online Form which will be sent directly to the right team! 

 

 

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51 replies

Newcomer
September 22, 2022

Thanks, folks. Will wait a little longer to see if it comes to life. The support team seem a bit stressed right now so will give a bit more time.

 

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
September 23, 2022

Hey @Middlestreet,

 

Sorry for the issues you’ve had.

 

Great to see our community members giving some tip-top advice here. 

 

OVO is unable to communicate with SMETS1 British Gas smart meters, so if they are unable to enroll it on the DCC then we won’t be able to communicate with the meter remotely. 

 

I’d advise filling out a smart meter health check if you haven’t done so already, you can then forward this to Support via web messenger:

 

 

Once they have this our team can start trying to sort out the communication issues with the meter. If they are unable to do they will be in touch to book a faulty meter exchange

 

Hope this helps. 

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Newcomer
September 23, 2022

Emmanuelle, 

Thanks for the input. It may have helped but the support team does not respond once the customer gets past the AI bit. I was position 1 in the  queue  at the outset but abandoned the link after 50 minutes of waiting for a response from an advisor. The chat function evidently does not work. Or, there just are no staff on shift.
I will just lodge a manual reading once per month or thereabouts. 
So much for mart meters. Ditto Ovo service levels. 

Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Forum Legend
September 26, 2022

Thanks for flagging this, @Middlestreet - I’ve logged this as a potential issue and I’ll be keeping an eye for anyone else describing the same thing. So far you’re the first…

 

Following this I’ll be passing your feedback on to the team that look after web messenger to make sure they’re aware. 

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Newcomer
December 8, 2022

i recently moved into a property with a Landis Gyr E470 Type 5424 for electricity. the gas smart meter has shown up on the network but this (electricity) one has not. i don’t have a problem getting readings--they’re always displayed on the screen--but it isn’t being recognised by my IHD or the supplier. 

i’m pretty sure it’s SMETS 2 (it doesn’t seem to have a separate comms box--see attached pic) so i’m not sure why it’s not being found.

further, using the Citizens Advice link you posted above, despite entering my MPAN number and postcode correctly, it says “We can’t find your meter” … 

when entering my MPRN number for electricity it says “Your gas meter's working in smart mode” and that “It’s working in smart mode because you have a second generation meter (SMETS2) that’s on the smart meter data network”

this suggests i’m right in thinking the gas meter is SMETS 2 (can’t think why they’d install a SMETS 2 elec but not gas meter?) but for some reason it’s not being picked up…

any help you can provide is much appreciated! 

 

Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Forum Legend
December 9, 2022

Hi @sonaldo I’ve just replied to your other topic about about this:

 

 

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Newcomer
March 4, 2023

Economy 7 user with 80% annual night time usage. Meter installed by EDF in October 2019. I switched to Ovo in January 2021 on a two year fix, then when the fix ended this January I went back to EDF to achieve the lower Ec7 rates. Throughout this time the meter performed without issue.

Last month I decided to switch to Utility Warehouse, as their Ec7 rates are the lowest available for the West Mids.

In just over two weeks I’ve had many issues with them, most of which have yet to be resolved.

From the day my supply went live with UW, the IHD display has shown my unit rates as £0 and UW say they cannot connect to the meter. Many phone calls later and the situation hasn’t changed. Spoke to someone in their escalation team today and they’ve arraged for an engineer to visit to carry out a power cycle. But my question is whether this will make any difference? I use the Bright app, and whilst it still shows unit rates from EDF, it shows my actual half hourly usage almost up to the current time. At the moment it is 16:20 and it shows that between 14:30 and 15:00 I used 0.08kwh. Surely if this information is being pulled from the DCC, it proves that the meter is connected and sending readings through as it always has done; further pin pointing that the issue lies at UW’s end, and that a power cycle will make no difference?

I’d be grateful for any advice you guys can give. If the power cycle is pointless then I won’t hesitate to cancel and move back to EDF.

Many thanks.

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
March 4, 2023

Hey @david59 ,

I’m Blastoise186, one of the forum volunteers here. Welcome by the way! My speciality is indeed in Smart Meters, but as I don’t work for any company in the energy industry (or anything related to it!) I’m independent.

Thanks for telling me your supplier by the way - this will ensure I don’t try any OVO specific solutions with you.

Could you show me some photos of the Meter(s), Comms Hub and IHD please? There’s a few things I can check even without access to any industry systems.

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Newcomer
March 5, 2023

Thank you for your reply.

Here are the pictures you requested.

 

Newcomer
March 5, 2023

Here are two shots from the Bright app