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I'm a low user so finding it difficult to achieve Power Move target- Can't we just get rid of standing charges instead?

My usage is already as low as I can get it. Therefore this turns out to be a complete and utter waste of time and effort and absolutely no help at all with astronomic energy bills. Most of what I pay each month is standing charges. Any solutions there, Ovo?

waltyboy
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Rank 8
January 1, 2024

Updated on 20/01/26 by Abby_OVO

 

Our Power Move peak times have changed to 5pm - 7pm on weekdays. If you hit the saving targets you’ll be entered into a prize draw with a chance of winning some great prizes (the top prize is a year’s free energy!). You can learn more and sign up here, and visit our FAQ’s page here.

 

Ah, those iniquitous standing charges, horrible. Especially for low users, they act almost as a disincentive to save energy. 

 

If most of your energy bill is standing charge, then you’re doing very well indeed, as you say that’s hard to improve on, if it’s indeed possible.

 

But remember Power Move doesn’t care (unlike our pockets!) whether our usage is low or high, the incentive doesn’t reward low usage as such, only lower usage during weekday peak hours as a percentage of overall weekday consumption. it’s easy to see Power Move as demanding low overall usage, it doesn’t. 
 

You’re right though, it’s easier for people with higher usage to shift some of their high usage out of peak hours and into other weekday slots. But don’t be put off by being a more moderate user, lots of folk on here who average low use still manage to hit their Power Move target, so don’t lose heart! There are plenty of tips and tricks on the forum, so do explore!

 

Main thing is, check your half hourly usage stats in your OVO online account over the next few days to get an idea of what you’re using and how much of your low usage is in the 4-7 weekday slot. And weekends and bank holidays don’t count for Power Move.

I do like the idea of a simple plug-in unit to tide us over the peak hours.  I don’t think it would even need a solar panel, as re-charging outside peak hours is a brilliant way of shifting usage from peak hours to non-peak. The capital outlay would preclude it, though, for most.

Good luck!!

 

You can find more info on standing charges on the Ofgem website here and on the OVO website here.

 

 

Here’s a helpful Forum topic where our community have shared ideas around hitting Power Move targets:

 

Walt. 2013: 3.2kW PV East/West + Fronius IG, as at 01 Sep 2026 30 MWh, of which 22 MWh exported. 2023: 2.4kWh LiFePo4 battery. 2024: Tadö wireless smart stat v3; Electriq split unit 2.6kW AAHP (“air conditioner”). 2026: Hyundai Inster 02 EV.

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Newcomer
January 1, 2024

It would be good if there was a small, self install solar that you could simply plug into a 13A socket with panel in garden that would cover the ever increasing standing charges.

waltyboy
Rank 8
waltyboyBest Answer
Rank 8
January 1, 2024

Updated on 20/01/26 by Abby_OVO

 

Our Power Move peak times have changed to 5pm - 7pm on weekdays. If you hit the saving targets you’ll be entered into a prize draw with a chance of winning some great prizes (the top prize is a year’s free energy!). You can learn more and sign up here, and visit our FAQ’s page here.

 

Ah, those iniquitous standing charges, horrible. Especially for low users, they act almost as a disincentive to save energy. 

 

If most of your energy bill is standing charge, then you’re doing very well indeed, as you say that’s hard to improve on, if it’s indeed possible.

 

But remember Power Move doesn’t care (unlike our pockets!) whether our usage is low or high, the incentive doesn’t reward low usage as such, only lower usage during weekday peak hours as a percentage of overall weekday consumption. it’s easy to see Power Move as demanding low overall usage, it doesn’t. 
 

You’re right though, it’s easier for people with higher usage to shift some of their high usage out of peak hours and into other weekday slots. But don’t be put off by being a more moderate user, lots of folk on here who average low use still manage to hit their Power Move target, so don’t lose heart! There are plenty of tips and tricks on the forum, so do explore!

 

Main thing is, check your half hourly usage stats in your OVO online account over the next few days to get an idea of what you’re using and how much of your low usage is in the 4-7 weekday slot. And weekends and bank holidays don’t count for Power Move.

I do like the idea of a simple plug-in unit to tide us over the peak hours.  I don’t think it would even need a solar panel, as re-charging outside peak hours is a brilliant way of shifting usage from peak hours to non-peak. The capital outlay would preclude it, though, for most.

Good luck!!

 

You can find more info on standing charges on the Ofgem website here and on the OVO website here.

 

 

Here’s a helpful Forum topic where our community have shared ideas around hitting Power Move targets:

 

Walt. 2013: 3.2kW PV East/West + Fronius IG, as at 01 Sep 2026 30 MWh, of which 22 MWh exported. 2023: 2.4kWh LiFePo4 battery. 2024: Tadö wireless smart stat v3; Electriq split unit 2.6kW AAHP (“air conditioner”). 2026: Hyundai Inster 02 EV.
Newcomer
January 1, 2024

My usage is already as low as I can get it. Therefore this turns out to be a complete and utter waste of time and effort and absolutely no help at all with astronomic energy bills. Most of what I pay each month is standing charges. Any solutions there, Ovo?

Yes, power move promised so much as a concept, but has delivered so little for consumers, because the threshold is stupidly low

Rank 5
January 1, 2024

My usage is already as low as I can get it. Therefore this turns out to be a complete and utter waste of time and effort and absolutely no help at all with astronomic energy bills. Most of what I pay each month is standing charges. Any solutions there, Ovo?

To unpack this.

  1. Most of what I pay each month is standing charges

Based on my standing chargers of 12.89p & 8.59p per day, this gives a total standing charge of £21.48/month. As this is higher than your consumption charge, your total energy costs are less than this. Assigning % use against % of the standing charges, gives you 48kWh of electricity and 133kWh of gas. 

Or, based on a 100% electricity use, with no gas use, its 80.75kWh. 

Regardless, this is a remarkably low use and I commend you for managing to be so frugal. Using between 1.5 and 2.6kWh per day is an amazing achievement, especially as an old broadband box could use most of this in one day.  

  1. I’m not getting my £15

You have to question, should Ovo give you £15 of credit when you’ve only purchased £21 of energy from them?  

Newcomer
January 1, 2024

I have the same issue. Prior to all this I was successful in reducing my power usage after the power crisis hit and had already done everything suggested by Ovo to cut costs. So I think the bar is now set so low for me that I can't get below the threshold set by them - I assume their reward threshold is based on current usage. ☹️

Newcomer
January 1, 2024

I felt just as you do when turning off the fridge freezer and living with minimum usage during the relevant period did not bring success. However as others have mentioned , the keyword is “move” and on the days when the challenges are set I  ensure the periodic higher usages such as washing machine or dishwasher take place at off peak times but on challenge days. . That increases the usage against which the challenge is measured. . I don’t use these machines every day—like you being on my own — but I ensure that my use ties in with challenge days. 

waltyboy
Rank 8
Rank 8
January 1, 2024

Power Move is not about rewarding low usage. It just doesn’t care whether you’re a low usage consumer or a high usage one.  
 

As @buckwheat says, it’s about moving stuff around to make your weekday 4-7 usage look good compared with overall weekday usage.  For anyone using more than, say, 3 kWh a day (most of us, I would suggest) that allows an average of nearly half a kWh to use in the three weekday hours of 4-7.  The more that can be moved from weekend to weekday, and the more that can be moved from weekday 4-7 to weekday non-peak hours, then the better percentage-wise. 
 

Switching off “always on” stuff during 4-7 won’t make any appreciable difference for Power Move purposes.  Fridges, LED lights, laptops etc. don’t really impact on Power Move, except possibly for really ultra-low users. 
 

Although for financial and green reasons, low overall usage is to be commended, Power Move is NOT about switching everything off 4-7, or seeking a reward for low overall usage. Power Move doesn't care about low usage, I’m afraid, only about percentages…

Walt. 2013: 3.2kW PV East/West + Fronius IG, as at 01 Sep 2026 30 MWh, of which 22 MWh exported. 2023: 2.4kWh LiFePo4 battery. 2024: Tadö wireless smart stat v3; Electriq split unit 2.6kW AAHP (“air conditioner”). 2026: Hyundai Inster 02 EV.
Newcomer
January 2, 2024

 

Based on my standing chargers of 12.89p & 8.59p per day, this gives a total standing charge of £21.48/month.

I’m confused by this;  (0.1289+0.0859)*31=£6.66 (😱)

Anyway, some of pay a lot more, like I am paying 50p for electricity, and gas would be around 30p, which coincidentally comes to close to your figure at £24. My always on number is about 70p/day (mostly the fridge; yup, it needs servicing!) So I am also impressed by someone whose standing charge is most of the bill!

 

Must get the fridge sorted!

Rank 5
January 2, 2024

 

Based on my standing chargers of 12.89p & 8.59p per day, this gives a total standing charge of £21.48/month.

I’m confused by this;  (0.1289+0.0859)*31=£6.66 (😱)

Anyway, some of pay a lot more, like I am paying 50p for electricity, and gas would be around 30p, which coincidentally comes to close to your figure at £24. My always on number is about 70p/day (mostly the fridge; yup, it needs servicing!) So I am also impressed by someone whose standing charge is most of the bill!

 

Must get the fridge sorted!

My mistake, I was looking at the wrong part of the quick spreadsheet. £8.59 / £12.89 was the monthly cost at 41.57p & 27.72p/day. 

My fridge is very old and uses 1.4 kWh/day, buts working, so i can’t justify replacing it with a newer unit, although it would save 1kWh/day (15%) off my bill. 

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
January 2, 2024

 

Based on my standing chargers of 12.89p & 8.59p per day, this gives a total standing charge of £21.48/month.

I’m confused by this;  (0.1289+0.0859)*31=£6.66 (😱)

Anyway, some of pay a lot more, like I am paying 50p for electricity, and gas would be around 30p, which coincidentally comes to close to your figure at £24. My always on number is about 70p/day (mostly the fridge; yup, it needs servicing!) So I am also impressed by someone whose standing charge is most of the bill!

 

Must get the fridge sorted!

My mistake, I was looking at the wrong part of the quick spreadsheet. £8.59 / £12.89 was the monthly cost at 41.57p & 27.72p/day. 

My fridge is very old and uses 1.4 kWh/day, buts working, so i can’t justify replacing it with a newer unit, although it would save 1kWh/day (15%) off my bill. 

Simple things like keeping fridge three quarters full, checking the door seals,cleaning the coils, keeping good air circulation at the back of the fridge, not putting warm food in the fridge, not opening the door for too long can all help a little. I suspect you are already doing all of those.

I often spot free fridges on our local freecycle website. As yours is very old you may find you can flip it for one a bit better with a little patience. You may have local Facebook groups in your area that also advertise free stuff

Are any of your other appliances old/inefficient?