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January 1, 2024
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I'm a low user so finding it difficult to achieve Power Move target- Can't we just get rid of standing charges instead?

My usage is already as low as I can get it. Therefore this turns out to be a complete and utter waste of time and effort and absolutely no help at all with astronomic energy bills. Most of what I pay each month is standing charges. Any solutions there, Ovo?

waltyboy
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January 1, 2024

Updated on 20/01/26 by Abby_OVO

 

Our Power Move peak times have changed to 5pm - 7pm on weekdays. If you hit the saving targets you’ll be entered into a prize draw with a chance of winning some great prizes (the top prize is a year’s free energy!). You can learn more and sign up here, and visit our FAQ’s page here.

 

Ah, those iniquitous standing charges, horrible. Especially for low users, they act almost as a disincentive to save energy. 

 

If most of your energy bill is standing charge, then you’re doing very well indeed, as you say that’s hard to improve on, if it’s indeed possible.

 

But remember Power Move doesn’t care (unlike our pockets!) whether our usage is low or high, the incentive doesn’t reward low usage as such, only lower usage during weekday peak hours as a percentage of overall weekday consumption. it’s easy to see Power Move as demanding low overall usage, it doesn’t. 
 

You’re right though, it’s easier for people with higher usage to shift some of their high usage out of peak hours and into other weekday slots. But don’t be put off by being a more moderate user, lots of folk on here who average low use still manage to hit their Power Move target, so don’t lose heart! There are plenty of tips and tricks on the forum, so do explore!

 

Main thing is, check your half hourly usage stats in your OVO online account over the next few days to get an idea of what you’re using and how much of your low usage is in the 4-7 weekday slot. And weekends and bank holidays don’t count for Power Move.

I do like the idea of a simple plug-in unit to tide us over the peak hours.  I don’t think it would even need a solar panel, as re-charging outside peak hours is a brilliant way of shifting usage from peak hours to non-peak. The capital outlay would preclude it, though, for most.

Good luck!!

 

You can find more info on standing charges on the Ofgem website here and on the OVO website here.

 

 

Here’s a helpful Forum topic where our community have shared ideas around hitting Power Move targets:

 

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Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
January 2, 2024

My usage is already as low as I can get it. Therefore this turns out to be a complete and utter waste of time and effort and absolutely no help at all with astronomic energy bills. Most of what I pay each month is standing charges. Any solutions there, Ovo?

Hi @York21 

If you have some specific ideas, then try posting them in the "Ideas" section which ovo regularly review.

Being as specific as possible rather than general comments can help in the Ideas section 

https://forum.ovoenergy.com/ideas

Rank 2
January 2, 2024

Hi All

Yes my standing charge is about 50% of my bill too so the £15 has nothing to do with green time use for me, like others I dont look to use my washing machine, recharge batteries etc at greener times I use them as boosters on power move days to make sure I reach the target

Newcomer
January 3, 2024

I’m bailing too - just checked my bill and altho I hit the targets half of it gets eaten up with VAT so whats the point of me sitting here using virtually no power for hours on end for £7. Daft - stupid...can’t be bothered and I’m a true environmentalist.

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
January 3, 2024

Hey @York21,

 

This topic may have some helpful advice:

 

 

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waltyboy
Rank 8
Rank 8
January 3, 2024

Hi @Joy777, well done on hitting the target…though you shouldn’t pay more than 5% VAT? 
 

Although I may have misunderstood…do you mean the VAT on your monthly bill is paid for by half of your Power Move?  In which case, your Power Move payment has come in handy.  Power Move is only about the electricity side of your consumption, of course, and your £7-odd VAT bill (if I’m correct in my assumption) possibly covers your gas as well? 

 

It is dispiriting, seeing incentive money going out again in VAT (and those iniquitous standing charges), but every little helps.  And of course, as you say, environmentally too. 
 

It would be a shame if you bailed out now, though, when it sounds as though you’ve got Power Move cracked.  Mind you, I definitely would not advocate sitting with no power for “hours on end”! That sounds very bleak, and is not what OVO or any of us consumers would wish on anyone. 
 

Anyway, best of luck to you and all the best for the New Year…

Walt. 2013: 3.2kW PV East/West + Fronius IG, as at 01 Sep 2026 30 MWh, of which 22 MWh exported. 2023: 2.4kWh LiFePo4 battery. 2024: Tadö wireless smart stat v3; Electriq split unit 2.6kW AAHP (“air conditioner”). 2026: Hyundai Inster 02 EV.
Firedog
Super User
Super User
January 3, 2024

... half of it gets eaten up with VAT …

 

I’m not sure why you say this. On my bill, VAT is calculated on the costs less the Power Move reward. In effect, the reward for me is £15.75, which easily pays the standing charge for electricity.

How long they will continue to calculate like this remains to be seen …

 

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Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
January 4, 2024

Hey @Joy777,

 

Regarding the VAT, can you check this? 

 

... half of it gets eaten up with VAT …

 

I’m not sure why you say this. On my bill, VAT is calculated on the costs less the Power Move reward. In effect, the reward for me is £15.75, which easily pays the standing charge for electricity.

How long they will continue to calculate like this remains to be seen …

 

 

Renewable Energy? Big Fan.
Newcomer
January 8, 2024

I'm the same.  Already a low user so can't meet the target. 

January 8, 2024

I'm a low user too, but being retired and living alone I have my usage timing well organised. Weekday mornings or late evenings are for running the dishwasher or the washing machine or the tumble dryer (no other option and it's not every week) as necessary. I batch cook on days when my other usage is otherwise low. With the exception of the fridge/freezer and the freezer in the shed all appliances are switched off at the socket unless in use. 

I'm lucky too in that my living room faces SSE which means that when the sun shines (like today) the thermostat often doesn't cut in until around 1pm, so saving on gas consumption too. 

Just received the Power Move email for December  - well pleased to see my average was 8.07%. But January is looking to be more difficult due to the cold snap, with daily readings often close to 11% and once even above the target!

Hey ho, but I'll do my best to keep below! *edited by moderator*

 

 

Rank 2
January 8, 2024

Yes you can Sandy I only use approx £15 in electric and £16 in charges a month and still hit the target/ There are loads of suggestions on other forum Power Move threads such as making sure you use the washing machine on challenge days but not peak hours, charging ipads and laptops outside challenge times, I also use battery powered lights during challenge period, boiling the kettle at 3.45 and not again until 7.15 -  . Scroll down below the reply box for other useful threads. Give it another go. good luck🤞