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THTC meter - Removal Request

  • January 10, 2024
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Hi folks,

 

I am trying to have a redundant THTC meter removed from my house and OVO seem to be refusing to do this. Can anyone help explain what I should do? Some background info below:

 

We moved to a property in March last year in the west of Scotland. The property has two meters with a THTC setup running storage heaters. We are getting the storage heaters removed in February and an air source heat pump installed. 

 

Once this work has been carried out there will be nothing running from the RadioTelemeter (THTC) meter.

 

I have contacted OVO by phone yesterday to request that this meter be removed once it is no longer in use. The person I spoke with said that OVO would not do this because doing so would stop the other (ordinary) meter working. They weren’t able to explain why this would be the case. After some time on the phone I was told that if I emailed OVO with evidence that the THTC meter would not powering anything then they could arrange for it to be removed. This seemed like a positive outcome although it was not clear why we were initially told in the call that removal wasn’t possible.

 

I sent an email last night attaching the quotes from our electrician and heating engineer for removal of storage heaters and replacement with heat pump etc. I got a positive response this morning:

I am Stephen from account management at OVO energy after reading your email we can go ahead and do that for you but i am going to give you extra information so to proceed with this job there is a charge due to the nature of it I would like to clarify that your okay with that and if you are i can go ahead and get you a price and and book the job for you.

 

Again this seemed positive and I asked Stephen to go ahead and give us a cost. I then had response email from Nahim:

Apologies for the confusion form what Stephan said but as of right now, appointments for removing THTC meters aren't available. We appreciate you gave us confirmation the property's heating system is no longer dependant.

However we are working on a new meter type that'll basically replace the current two meters and you'll get one meter. The meter will reveal at Spring and you'll get an email when your free meter upgrade is ready

 

As far as I understand it the ‘new meter type’ mentioned has been in development for years and has been repeatedly delayed. I have little to no confidence that it will arrive in spring as promised above. It isn’t clear why we should be expected to wait for this.

 

Ontop of that our experience from speaking to neighbours and friends locally is that smart meters are useless in this (rural) area since they are not able to connect to a radio mast for communication. Any smart meters fitted simply operate as ‘dumb’ meters in this area.

 

Can anyone give us some hope that it is possible to get the redundant THTC meter removed as we have requested? Is there any technical reason why this wouldn’t be possible?

 

Failing that at least any good reason why we should have to wait for the new meter to be developed and rolled out? It seems in this instance that whilst waiting we’d have headaches if we wanted to switch supplier etc because we’d have a strange setup with a redundant meter and two MPAN numbers associated with the property. This could go on indefinitely since the new meters are not yet launched.

 

Below is a photograph of our current setup incase this is useful:

 

 

We’d really appreciate any help on this!

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Best answer by Nukecad

They may well ask for consumer feedback later; once those initial proposals have been refined by industry discussions.

However at the moment that isn’t what they want or need.

So it’s best not to clog up their email with unwanted stuff that just takes up their time to deal with.
(There’s a word we all use for unwanted emails - spam).

Wait and see if they do ask for consumer feedback/opinion, but TBH there may not be time.
The clock is counting down and contingency plans need to be in place for when it reaches zero in June.

240 replies

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
July 20, 2024

Then perhaps you should try designing, implementing, deploying and managing infrastructure yourself perhaps? Because if you did - and I definitely do that for IT Infrastructure as part of my job - you’d understand this stuff isn’t a Dump N’ Go solution.

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Newcomer
July 22, 2024

I know from my own experience that they’ve been busy with this since before October 2022.


Hardly “Dump ‘N Go”, I’m sure you’ll agree.

Newcomer
July 25, 2024

If you need to see just how many people are pulling their hair out re. THTC/Smart Meters, try this for some light reading…

https://www.facebook.com/groups/819324289910472

You are not alone.
Far from it.

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
July 25, 2024

Or no reading at all. I ain’t signing up to something that’ll let Mark Zuckerberg slurp my data just to read complaints about one specific meter type.

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Newcomer
July 25, 2024

Hi Blastie!

Any update of the mother of all announcements? Expect not.

Curiously, I just came across this on another forum page from a year agofrom you!!!

1 year ago

Ok, I’m back. Sorry for the wait!

There is good news. I met up with one of OVO’s internal smart meter experts a few months ago and we had a long discussion about this topic. I just needed to check some public resources to see if anything new was out there in the internet.

OVO is developing a solution that’ll enable you to migrate a THTC setup to Smart Meters. That is something I can 100% confirm because I’ve seen the evidence of it myself. You’ll lose the complicated mess of wiring between several meters and go onto a single Smart Meter once the upgrade is done.

The only snag is that it’s not ready to deploy yet as things are still being worked out. But it is officially Coming Soon! Once you’ve been upgraded, you’ll be free to stick with SSE/OVO or move away if you wish, it’d be totally up to you. I wouldn’t recommend switching supplier at this time though, just to make the migration off of your current setup easier.

Once a solution is available, we’ll no doubt see something posted to the OVO Forum announcing it. Watch this space!

 

😂

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
July 25, 2024

I don’t see you offering a solution here. Perhaps rather than trying to fight me, you could come up with something a little more… Helpful… Perhaps?

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Newcomer
July 25, 2024

Sadly, I am not in a position to solve OVO’s issues for you.

Bradley_OVO
Community Manager
Community Leader
July 25, 2024

I appreciate this is a frustrating experience @monster9 and there is nothing more that we’d like to do, than to give an immediate, all queries answered, post up about this. 

 

However, we’ve been working closely with @Blastoise186 and our internal teams to get something put together as soon as possible. He is right when he says we’re very close in getting something uploaded soon, but we’re making sure all the I’s are dotted and t’s crossed. The last thing we want to do is upload something that’s wrong and that effectively worsens a customers experience. 

 

I’d just ask if we could refrain from being combative with our super users, who are doing nothing more than trying to help where they’re physically able to, this will make this process much easier and smoother for all involved. Please make sure you’re following the Forum House Rules.

 

As I say, I sympathise with you and understand you’re frustrated and want answers, as I imagine many users do too, but please understand we’re doing all we can to get something issued asap. 

 

If you have any questions or want to discuss any of this offline, please don’t hesitate to send me a private message. Always happy to chat and support where I can.

 

I'm not lazy, I'm just in energy saving mode!
Newcomer
July 25, 2024

 

Apologies for my earlier frustrations, but you must understand the enormous disappointment we THTC customers experience when we hear, for the umpteenth time, that it's "coming soon".

I first heard it 2 years ago, one of your volunteers stated it a year ago and again a few weeks ago.

Sadly, "Coming soon" carries no weight any more. I’m sure you understand why.

Only recently, when pressed, did a webchat agent tell me that "soon" was being targeted for "end of 2025".

Also, personally, I have been trying for 2 years to get any kind of meaningful response to having THTC removed in its entirety from my home. For the most part, I get the standard response that "the meter isn't ready yet" which demonstrates a total lack of OVO support staff to understand my request for THTC removal, not replacement. I have made formal complaint, which has gone unanswered for several months. Why?

And I'm not alone - the Facebook forum I referenced earlier is awash with people all telling similar stories of repeated frustration and disappointment.

Today, I tried once again check progress on my case, only to be referred to an OVO team I have already spoken to who couldn't help.

In the meantime, all us THTC customers are locked into tariffs we don't want and are paying over the odds for our electricity. We are unable to take advantage of offers in the marketplace, which could reduce our bills significantly. For some, these bills are crippling.

And no other provider will take us on.

And we're told it's "Jam tomorrow".

I will wait, of course. I have no other option.

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
July 26, 2024

Hey @monster9,

 

I’m really sorry, I understand how frustrating this must be for you.

 

The latest advice is very positive:

 

After a very successful pilot, from the 17th June 2024 we will begin writing to our Economy 10 RTS customers to invite them to call us to arrange for their meter exchange. 

 

We are continuing to work at pace to enable the same solution for the majority of our other RTS customers and our aim is to begin writing to these customers in Aug 2024. 

 

If you aren’t contacted in August please reach out to our forum team & we’ll ask about this internally for you. 

 

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