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THTC meter - Removal Request

  • January 10, 2024
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Hi folks,

 

I am trying to have a redundant THTC meter removed from my house and OVO seem to be refusing to do this. Can anyone help explain what I should do? Some background info below:

 

We moved to a property in March last year in the west of Scotland. The property has two meters with a THTC setup running storage heaters. We are getting the storage heaters removed in February and an air source heat pump installed. 

 

Once this work has been carried out there will be nothing running from the RadioTelemeter (THTC) meter.

 

I have contacted OVO by phone yesterday to request that this meter be removed once it is no longer in use. The person I spoke with said that OVO would not do this because doing so would stop the other (ordinary) meter working. They weren’t able to explain why this would be the case. After some time on the phone I was told that if I emailed OVO with evidence that the THTC meter would not powering anything then they could arrange for it to be removed. This seemed like a positive outcome although it was not clear why we were initially told in the call that removal wasn’t possible.

 

I sent an email last night attaching the quotes from our electrician and heating engineer for removal of storage heaters and replacement with heat pump etc. I got a positive response this morning:

I am Stephen from account management at OVO energy after reading your email we can go ahead and do that for you but i am going to give you extra information so to proceed with this job there is a charge due to the nature of it I would like to clarify that your okay with that and if you are i can go ahead and get you a price and and book the job for you.

 

Again this seemed positive and I asked Stephen to go ahead and give us a cost. I then had response email from Nahim:

Apologies for the confusion form what Stephan said but as of right now, appointments for removing THTC meters aren't available. We appreciate you gave us confirmation the property's heating system is no longer dependant.

However we are working on a new meter type that'll basically replace the current two meters and you'll get one meter. The meter will reveal at Spring and you'll get an email when your free meter upgrade is ready

 

As far as I understand it the ‘new meter type’ mentioned has been in development for years and has been repeatedly delayed. I have little to no confidence that it will arrive in spring as promised above. It isn’t clear why we should be expected to wait for this.

 

Ontop of that our experience from speaking to neighbours and friends locally is that smart meters are useless in this (rural) area since they are not able to connect to a radio mast for communication. Any smart meters fitted simply operate as ‘dumb’ meters in this area.

 

Can anyone give us some hope that it is possible to get the redundant THTC meter removed as we have requested? Is there any technical reason why this wouldn’t be possible?

 

Failing that at least any good reason why we should have to wait for the new meter to be developed and rolled out? It seems in this instance that whilst waiting we’d have headaches if we wanted to switch supplier etc because we’d have a strange setup with a redundant meter and two MPAN numbers associated with the property. This could go on indefinitely since the new meters are not yet launched.

 

Below is a photograph of our current setup incase this is useful:

 

 

We’d really appreciate any help on this!

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Best answer by Nukecad

They may well ask for consumer feedback later; once those initial proposals have been refined by industry discussions.

However at the moment that isn’t what they want or need.

So it’s best not to clog up their email with unwanted stuff that just takes up their time to deal with.
(There’s a word we all use for unwanted emails - spam).

Wait and see if they do ask for consumer feedback/opinion, but TBH there may not be time.
The clock is counting down and contingency plans need to be in place for when it reaches zero in June.

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June 27, 2024

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Blastoise186
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Super User
June 27, 2024

It’s actually gone to someone internal, and apparently it’s really blowing up the office with interest. Because of how crucial it is, it’s got to be vetted by a specific team.

Thanks though

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June 30, 2024
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July 17, 2024

It’s actually gone to someone internal, and apparently it’s really blowing up the office with interest. Because of how crucial it is, it’s got to be vetted by a specific team.

Thanks though

It's now been a month since we were first told about the "exciting news". Just wondering if there is a time frame for the release of this news.....

Blastoise186
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Super User
July 18, 2024

It’s on my radar to check on

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Emmanuelle_OVO
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July 18, 2024

Hey @Cassie511,

 

Update on RTS shutdown:

 

As part of the RTS Project development, we are really happy to share with you our progress:

 

As you may be aware, the RTS signal that instructs some of our meters when to move to the “Off Peak Period”  will be closing down soon and we need to arrange for all of our RTS customers to have a meter exchange so they don’t lose any of their meter functionality.

 

The RTS signal will end for our customers on 30 June 2025. The period between 1 July - 30 September 2025 will then be used to close-down the RTS signal and allow us to manage any unexpected customers impacted.

 

After a very successful pilot, from the 17th June 2024 we will begin writing to our Economy 10 RTS customers to invite them to call us to arrange for their meter exchange. 

 

We are continuing to work at pace to enable the same solution for the majority of our other RTS customers and our aim is to begin writing to these customers in Aug 2024. 

 

We will continue to update you on our progress.

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Newcomer
July 18, 2024

We are continuing to work at pace to enable the same solution for the majority of our other RTS customers and our aim is to begin writing to these customers in Aug 2024”

So, those of us with THTC meters should be being contacted in the coming weeks?

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
July 18, 2024

I’ve had an update about the announcement article.

Long story short, the internal team that we asked to take a look has done so and some changes were made as a result - which may include some extra data that’ll help fill in the blanks. Even if it doesn’t, that stuff can always be added later since it’d only take seconds to do.

I’m waiting for the final sign-off and one or two more checks. Once those go green, it should be much closer to going live.

So, those of us with THTC meters should be being contacted in the coming weeks?

:)

 

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Emmanuelle_OVO
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July 19, 2024

Hey @monster9,

 

That is right, we are continuing to work at pace to enable the same solution (meter exchange) for the majority of our other RTS customers and our aim is to begin writing to these customers in Aug 2024. 😊

 

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July 20, 2024

Hey @monster9,

 

That is right, we are continuing to work at pace to enable the same solution (meter exchange) for the majority of our other RTS customers and our aim is to begin writing to these customers in Aug 2024. 😊

 

I see however that OFGEM are running out of patience with those companies who are dragging their feet over smart meter installations and “smart” meters that don’t actually work.  They wrote to companies at the start of the year highlighting their concern on the lack of movement on this issue.  They have now opened a formal compliance notice against companies who are not meeting their obligations under the terms of their licence - including OVO.
Ofgem opens compliance engagement into British Gas, EDF, E.ON, Octopus, OVO and Scottish Power relating to smart meter obligations | Ofgem