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What is most efficient way to run heating for my Mitsubishi Ecodan Air Source Heat Pump?

  • November 1, 2022
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So confused, what is most efficient way to run heating. At moment I do not have it on timer (as advised) I have it set at 19, then turn down to 15.5 when too warm in flat. I have my water on timer coming on an hour in morning & hour at night. I have 2 bedroom flat and live on my own. Being a pensioner I need it to run efficiently. Thanks 

Best answer by Brennie66

It sounds like there may be an opportunity to turn down your flow temperature if you feel your flat is getting too warm if you need to override the thermostat.

Do you use a ‘weather compensation’ setting that adjusts the water flow temperature based on the outside temperature? You may be able to reduce the settings so that the pump is only having to heat the water to a lower temperature. This may mean the flat takes slightly longer to warm but should be more efficient. I try to stop my heat pump having to cycle on and off by doing this. The aim being so that it only just manages to reach my desired room temperature  - the room thermostat being used as an override to stop it getting too hot.

 

you may want to look on YouTube at the range of consumer focused vids by Heat Geek. They will teach you how to refine your system to be most efficient and comfortable - I have done this and it has made a difference.

As others have said, low and slow using weather compensation is the way forward with heat pumps.

 

what temperature is your hot water set to ? It doesn’t need to be more that about 45degC (but needs a 60degC heat up once a week to avoid legionella).

 

I have an ecodan and would agree with the above posters’ comments. I have found that about ¼ of my electricity is for hot water, and ¾ for heating. So getting the heating right will save you the most money.

For hot water I changed 2 settings: the temperature that the system heats my water to is set to 49C, also i turned off the automatic heating so it just heats the tank up very early morning and evening.

For heating you probably want the thermostat set to the temperature you find comfortable (eg 20C) and leave it at that (or maybe switch down just a bit overnight eg to 18C). It takes a long time for heatpumps to change the temperature in your home, so its actually better to keep it at the same temp all the time. You want the heat pump set to weather compensation mode. This means that your radiators will get warmer when its very cold outside, and just slightly warm when it is mild outside. 

Changing these settings on the ecodan control panel isn’t very obvious so best to google it and watch a video of someone doing it

 

Thanks for your reply. I’m going to google regarding the weather compensation and check the temperature of the water.

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nealmurphy
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January 14, 2023

Hi @Jenp 

Some Ecodan users will likely be along at some point.

Can you tell us if you have a smart room thermostat or smart radiator valves to control room temperatures? Actually is it radiators or underfloor heating that you have?

If you have a thermostat with timer I would set it slightly higher than your desired temperature as an overshoot cut off and then try and use the weather compensation controls on the heat pump to try and just reach the required temperature so it's not working too hard.

If the chap on YouTube is Heat Geek then look at the videos on zoning.

 

M.isterW
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January 14, 2023

The first thing to do is check your COP (coefficient of performance). This is how much heat you're getting for every kWh of electricity that's used. When you know this you can decide if it's efficient enough and you have something to measure changes against. There are some instructions up there ^ that tell you how to find the information.

1992 4 bed detached house. Solar PV + battery, Zappi EV charger, Mitsubishi Ecodan ASHP and i-life2 fan assisted radiators.... No gas 😊
Jenp
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January 14, 2023

Ok cop is 3.5.. rads only..normal trv’s.. fc9 normal wall control…wasnt heat geek but an Irish chap. Pump set at 5 flow is 16 litre which is low, think should be above 20 so asking for secondary pump from installer, flow temp was 55.. which apparently is default so reduced it… i just dont know if i can run this on curve..well i can. But should it be on play/constant.. or timed?! Oh no zones… 17 rads…just like normal system really but bigger double rads…

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M.isterW
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January 14, 2023

A COP of 3.5 is quite good. If the house is warm when you want and you have enough hot water I probably wouldn't change anything.

 

If you want to learn more about weather compensation curves and that sort of thing, Heat Geek on YouTube is a good place to go.

1992 4 bed detached house. Solar PV + battery, Zappi EV charger, Mitsubishi Ecodan ASHP and i-life2 fan assisted radiators.... No gas 😊
Jenp
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January 14, 2023

Thank you! Heat geek gets a cop of 5.9 in a badly insulated office of his!

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juliamc
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January 14, 2023

Thank you! Heat geek gets a cop of 5.9 in a badly insulated office of his!

😢 2.75 here

Jenp
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January 14, 2023

Not the easiest to figure out how to get the best ourt of it, im insulating my bungalow to the max….

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January 15, 2023

I got a COP of 1.75 for January and 2 for December 😫 😥

 

Absolutely lost with how to run this thing efficiently.

juliamc
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January 15, 2023

What do you have @benZ ? 

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January 16, 2023

What do you have @benZ ? 

Hey, thanks so much for your fast reply. I have a Mitsubishi EcoDan EHPT20Q. The system is zoned in tk downstairs and upstairs. And there’s two Digistat’s for each area. 


I’m really unsure as to why it’s so inefficient 

I put the system in to the custom compensation curve, and running it at 19/20 but it seems to be costing a lot of money to do so. 
 

When I checked yesterday it had used 141 and delivered 248 😭

 

it’s a new build so all the radiators should be up to spec…? I’ve no idea. No one has takes me through it or anything.