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Scotland smart meter, no Arquiva signal

  • May 2, 2025
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I've been going around in circles with OVO and SMS for the last 7 months trying to get a working smart meter.

I've had multiple comms hubs and meters tried and none of them can connect.

The engineer today brought with him an English comms hubs, but OVO refused him permission to install it.

This is in the context of a very good solar system which generates a lot more electricity than I need and is currently being thrown away.

I'm not in the Highlands of Scotland or anywhere remote, I'm in a village a few miles from Kinross near the M90. I do however live in an 18th century stone house with walls about a foot thick, I think the signal just can't get through the wall.

Frustrated I am!

Best answer by Kinnesswood

just had the OVO Advanced Resolution team on the phone.  I’m going to get another appointment in the next 2-3 weeks, and I’ve told them all about the need for the Fly Lead and moving the Comms hub to a better location. So fingers crossed!

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May 8, 2025

I think the problem is that I live in an 18th century house with stone walls that are about 60cm thick

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May 8, 2025

Hope this pic is what you wanted ​@Lukepeniket_OVO 

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May 8, 2025

I think the problem is that I live in an 18th century house with stone walls that are about 60cm thick

Either that or there simply isn’t signal in your area. The DCC contract only requires Arquiva to reach a certain coverage and many properties just fall outside that area.

The new dual-mode communication hubs will reduce the number of these situations as they will be able to pick up 4G networks in locations that the long-range radio does not cover.

Even then there will still be a small number of properties that have both no LRR or 4G and - to start with at least - they will still be left stuck. However because 4G is obviously used for other things there is now more likely to be expansion of coverage in the future, whereas there is no reason for Arquiva to expand LRR coverage.

I am in the same situation as you, no WAN coverage despite multiple attempts and am just going to wait until all the RTS switch-off palava has died down and will then request another attempt with a 4G-compatible comms hub. 

Emmanuelle_OVO
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May 9, 2025

Thanks for sending that photo across ​@Kinnesswood, ​@Lukepeniket_OVO will take a look & update you on this topic 🙂

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May 9, 2025

hey all, 

Photo is great and i was hoping to be able to offer some sort of insight to be able to try to get it done, unfortunately it is as feared and unlikely to work. I cant comment if a south/central Comms Hub would work other than to call up customer services again and ask them if they would allow that type of comms hub to be used. Sorry!!

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May 9, 2025

So given the RTS network is being shutv down at the end of June, presumably there is a big effort now to replace those meters with the 4G ones? And then from July onwards they will be available to the rest of us?

Blastoise186
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May 9, 2025

It’s roughly that way IIRC.

September is the final deadline before the signal gets killed for good.

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Firedog
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May 10, 2025

  

I think the problem is that I live in an 18th century house with stone walls that are about 60cm thick

Either that or there simply isn’t signal in your area.
   

That’s not likely. Kinnesswood is apparently well served by the Craigkelly TV transmitter near Burntisland, so it’s likely that the SMWAN connection is also adequate.
  

Kinnesswood - Craigkelly tower

 

The problem is likely to be local obstruction, like those stone walls. If the meter is on the wrong (i.e. north) side of the house, you’re probably out of luck. There is the possibility of mounting a flying lead, which makes it possible to move the communications hub with its internal antenna up to 1.5m away from the meter, e.g. higher up, on the other side of the wall or even just outside the cupboard to improve the chances of being able to connect. You might also check what mobile phone networks you can connect to with your smart phone down in that cupboard.  

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
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May 11, 2025

The meter is on the north side if the house think, how could I get get the flying lead installed?

Firedog
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May 12, 2025

That’s up to the installing engineer. If you think it’s possible to mount the communications hub somewhere not more than a metre or so from the meter where it’s not so hidden from the signal, document your proposal with a sketch map and photos, then contact support via web chat to ask them to add the evidence to your account for the visiting engineer to see. He could then assess the likelihood of success and make sure to have an FL with him when he comes. 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |