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November 13, 2021

Renewal dilemma discussion - What's the best option (fixed or variable) in the current energy market?

  • November 13, 2021
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Hi everyone ☺️

I have been a dual fuel customer with Ovo for over 7 years and have always ensured I get the best fixed rate deals possible. My dual fuel fixed rate deals expire on different dates (long story). My electric fixed rate deal expires 04/12/21 and my gas fixed rate deal expires in June 2022. For this reason, I am only asking about my electric as this deal is about to end.

 

Taking into account that fellow forum members can only provide non-binding guidance and thoughts, I wondered what everyone's views are about the following...... Based on the information below, if you were me, would you lock-in to a new 3 year fixed electric deal commencing on 05/12/21 (note: the rate cost I am being offered has fallen twice in the last 4 weeks!!). Here is my situation:

 

Current electric deal (05/12/19 to 04/12/21):

Unit rate: 15.22p/kWh 

Standing charge: 27.40p/day

 

New 3yr electric deal (05/12/21 to 04/12/24):

Unit rate: 25.41p/kWh

Standing charge: 25.64p/day

 

Price capped variable rate:

Unit rate: 20.31p/kWh

Standing charge: 23.76p/day

 

Whilst I can see the variable rate is the cheapest option, the question is whether or not I would be better locking myself into the 3 year fixed rate now to protect myself from further increases? Should I slide on to the variable rate and hope the costs come down and not go up? Should I wait a couple more weeks and see if the cost of the fixed rate offer will drop even further (it has come down twice in 4 weeks), or is it likely to rise meaning I will miss out? PS: 2 year fixed rate offer is ridiculously high!

 

What is everyone's thoughts and views about this? What would you be tempted to do? Obviously I know any views are non-binding so please don't worry. Just looking for your input.

 

Thanks everyone and take care ☺️👍🏻

58 replies

Peter E
Super User
Super User
March 12, 2024

Also good advice from Martin Lewis at Money Saving Expert about when to go for a fixed deal.

 

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/are-there-any-cheap-fixed-energy-deals-currently-worth-it/

Reducing my yearly fossil fuel usage with an EV (-900 litres petrol), A2AHP (-8,700 kWh gas) and Timed Immersion heater (-1,500 kWh gas)
Rank 2
March 12, 2024

Well it’s up to you seems quite reasonable. my fixed plan is coming to an end have a new one that starts April . don’t know what my may be.

waltyboy
Rank 8
Rank 8
March 12, 2024

Always a gamble, to stick or twist. But those peak and off peak fixed that they’re offering don’t look bad compared to your current rates?  And I can’t see many suppliers (although there is at least one that I can think of!) with daily SC much below 50p for the foreseeable.  
 

Does the suggested £82 PCM average seem fairly favourable compared with your monthly average over the last 12 months or so? Assuming you envisage your electricity consumption not changing much.
 

I’ve got exactly the same conundrum coming up middle of May when my fixed tariff ends.  Up to you, but it is only for a year of course. And as you say, no penalty for switching within OVO…

Walt. 2013: 3.2kW PV East/West + Fronius IG, >26MWh (of which, to date mid-2025, 20MWh exported). 2023: 2.4kWh LiFePo4 battery. 2024: Tadö wireless smart stat v3; Electriq split unit 2.6kW AAHP (“air conditioner”).
Rank 5
March 12, 2024

@waltyboy last year's average was £84.47p PCM. I really don't know what to do it's the standing charges I'm most concerned about.

 

 

waltyboy
Rank 8
Rank 8
March 12, 2024

Yep @Lucky2, the standing charges are truly iniquitous for us all, especially for low/medium users. But apart from one or two variable tariffs from a certain other well known supplier, most people I think are predicting SC around the level of 50p or more for the foreseeable: it might be a bit more and then drop a bit back down towards 50p. Nobody knows for sure.

 

The beauty of a fixed tariff is that at least you know your SC can’t increase for a year, and, in my own personal opinion, 50-odd pence average daily SC is a fair ball park figure over the next year. “Fair” as in a fairly accurate assessment, not necessarily fair on us consumers, I hasten to add! But hey, I’m just one fairly simple old timer trying to puzzle his way through life! Like the rest of us, I can only guess, I’m afraid, BUT several posts above have mentioned the excellent Martin Lewis and his advice in the MSE website (advice which is constantly updated, I might add) and also Cornwall Insight predictions (on which MSE advice heavily relies on), which are widely regarded as being as accurate as one can be in predicting the future!  So do have a read of the relevant MSE advice on whether to go fixed or not, and incidentally they also have a great community forum. Not as great as this one, of course!

 

£82 as opposed to past year’s £84.47 certainly sounds OK? But you’re right to be concerned about daily SC…20p a day plus or minus over a year would be a difference of £70-odd, after all, or, put another way, a month’s worth of leccy, give or take.

 

Let us know what you think, as I for one will be making a similar choice in a month or so, like @JNeve and others on here I’m sure…all the best…

Walt. 2013: 3.2kW PV East/West + Fronius IG, >26MWh (of which, to date mid-2025, 20MWh exported). 2023: 2.4kWh LiFePo4 battery. 2024: Tadö wireless smart stat v3; Electriq split unit 2.6kW AAHP (“air conditioner”).
Firedog
Super User
Super User
March 12, 2024

Just for comparison:
  

 

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Newcomer
March 12, 2024

*edited by moderator*

 

This is my current Tariff.

Well, my day rate with OVO is 56p per day 

day rate is 29p per kw

off peak is 23p per kw

£166 per month but the last three months I’ve been over £300 per month. 
 

I’m on economy 10 for Dimplex Quantum storage heaters that my local authority fitted in place of gas. 
 

I’m going to see what Octopus can offer, they don’t do economy 10 just economy 7 but it can’t be any worse than what I’m paying now. No one can tell me what these heaters should be on, 7 or 10. British Gas offers 9.9p per kw but I need a heating hub which I would have to pay near £200 for.

 

 

waltyboy
Rank 8
Rank 8
March 13, 2024

Some “good” (less bad!) Ecotricity daily SC rates from @Firedog in certain parts of the country. Definitely worth emphasising location, location, location!

Walt. 2013: 3.2kW PV East/West + Fronius IG, >26MWh (of which, to date mid-2025, 20MWh exported). 2023: 2.4kWh LiFePo4 battery. 2024: Tadö wireless smart stat v3; Electriq split unit 2.6kW AAHP (“air conditioner”).