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November 13, 2021

Renewal dilemma discussion - What's the best option (fixed or variable) in the current energy market?

  • November 13, 2021
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Hi everyone ☺️

I have been a dual fuel customer with Ovo for over 7 years and have always ensured I get the best fixed rate deals possible. My dual fuel fixed rate deals expire on different dates (long story). My electric fixed rate deal expires 04/12/21 and my gas fixed rate deal expires in June 2022. For this reason, I am only asking about my electric as this deal is about to end.

 

Taking into account that fellow forum members can only provide non-binding guidance and thoughts, I wondered what everyone's views are about the following...... Based on the information below, if you were me, would you lock-in to a new 3 year fixed electric deal commencing on 05/12/21 (note: the rate cost I am being offered has fallen twice in the last 4 weeks!!). Here is my situation:

 

Current electric deal (05/12/19 to 04/12/21):

Unit rate: 15.22p/kWh 

Standing charge: 27.40p/day

 

New 3yr electric deal (05/12/21 to 04/12/24):

Unit rate: 25.41p/kWh

Standing charge: 25.64p/day

 

Price capped variable rate:

Unit rate: 20.31p/kWh

Standing charge: 23.76p/day

 

Whilst I can see the variable rate is the cheapest option, the question is whether or not I would be better locking myself into the 3 year fixed rate now to protect myself from further increases? Should I slide on to the variable rate and hope the costs come down and not go up? Should I wait a couple more weeks and see if the cost of the fixed rate offer will drop even further (it has come down twice in 4 weeks), or is it likely to rise meaning I will miss out? PS: 2 year fixed rate offer is ridiculously high!

 

What is everyone's thoughts and views about this? What would you be tempted to do? Obviously I know any views are non-binding so please don't worry. Just looking for your input.

 

Thanks everyone and take care ☺️👍🏻

58 replies

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
July 16, 2022

Thankyou

so I am in simpler energy at moment

circumstances are are got somebody new in house energy usage will go up say just under price cap

I don’t have a smart meter

so plans on offer are 

2 years fixed loyalty £204+10 a month estimated 

elec 47.47                        Gas   14.48

standing 54.64.              Standing       27.52

1 year better energy  £204

elec 47.31                        Gas 14.44

standing53.64.              Standing 27.52

2year fixed £249

elec  59.93                      Gas  17.87

standing54.64               Standing27.52

sorry new to all this which one is the best

thankyou fir your help

 

Hi @Newbe12 

I would click on the Tariff Information Label link and just check the forecast usage looks reasonable based on your previous usage.

I don't normally like to give recommendations for whether to fix or not.

All i would say is that energy prices are very volatile so fixed rates will give you a huge piece of mind and protection against any dramatic unforeseen price rises. That is important for many people. 

The 1 year fixed rates and 2 year loyalty rates at the moment are pretty close to what industry experts think the price cap will be in October and January. Of course the price cap could go higher or lower than these experts predict , particularly January. I can't personally see prices falling. 

There is the possibility a new prime minister or ofgem the regulator makes further changes, but i doubt these will be material in the short term. 

The other 2 year price cap is obviously expensive given the 2 year loyalty quote.

@Blastoise186  i think looked at some of the wording regarding the loyalty plan. I don't think you actually need to sign up for the £10 boiler cover if you don't want to.

So if piece of mind is important and you worry about energy costs then at least go for the 1 year quote and think about the 2 year loyalty quote. 

Does that help? 

 

 

Rank 5
March 12, 2024

This is my current Tariff.

Day Rate.....31.63p

Night Rate..20.08p

S.T......41.91

 

This is what OVO are offering me on a fixed Tariff.

Should I or shouldn't I ?

 

BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
March 12, 2024

Obviously up to you @Lucky2 although I have seen others offering a fixed tariff (just before the April cap update), without an exit fee

Bring me Sunshine ~ E&E {Solar PV, Battery Storage, Hybrid EV, ASHP and Home Assistant automation}
Rank 5
March 12, 2024

@BPLightlog This is a no exit fee offer

 

BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
March 12, 2024

No, I meant from another supplier. On your top post, it says £75 exit fee

Bring me Sunshine ~ E&E {Solar PV, Battery Storage, Hybrid EV, ASHP and Home Assistant automation}
Newcomer
March 12, 2024

No exit fees if you stay with Ovo and move to a different tariff, but they will apply if you leave Ovo

Rank 5
March 12, 2024

@BPLightlog my concern with staying on a variable tariff is the standing chargers as I've heard they can be as high as 70p a day. 

 

Peter E
Super User
Super User
March 12, 2024

It's always hazardous to advise someone about selecting a fixed deal or stay with the SVT because anything could happen with the prices going forward. I find it better to point people towards Cornwall Insight who have a good track record of estimating future rates and let people make their own comparison and decision. At the moment there isn't a huge gap between the two and fixed deals are very cautious as the utilities are concerned about significantly undercutting the market and losing out.

https://www.cornwall-insight.com/press/cornwall-insights-final-forecast-for-the-april-price-ca

In the long term energy prices are expected to stay high but competition between the utilities may get them to offer a significantly better fixed deal to attract customers. The only significant deals out there are if you want to charge an EV but then your electric bill is likely to be two to three times your domestic bill and you can also charge in the early hours of the morning.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-12275321/Energy-bills-stay-high-15-years-experts-predict.html

 

Sorry I can't provide a definite answer as the benefits are marginal and the marketplace is uncertain.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reducing my yearly fossil fuel usage with an EV (-900 litres petrol), A2AHP (-8,700 kWh gas) and Timed Immersion heater (-1,500 kWh gas)
Rank 5
March 12, 2024

@BPLightlog I'm not planning on leaving l OVO as they are still the cheapest for economy 7.

BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
March 12, 2024

@BPLightlog my concern with staying on a variable tariff is the standing chargers as I've heard they can be as high as 70p a day. 

 

There are higher standing charges on the way although there is a thought that these might be reduced again later in the year. 
It is all a bit of a gamble I’m afraid. 
For what it’s worth, I’m not on a fixed tariff (but I’m also not with OVO at the minute)

Bring me Sunshine ~ E&E {Solar PV, Battery Storage, Hybrid EV, ASHP and Home Assistant automation}