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Power Move February 2024- Struggling to hit the target

  • March 3, 2024
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I was on holiday between the 4th and 24th February. I left a fridge freezer and a seperate freezer running obviously. All other appliances were unplugged including the internet. Ovo have e mailed to say my average useage was 17.75% higher than what was required to hit my target. 

Perhaps I have should have moved out for the extra 9 days. 

I think we are being hoodwinked !

Best answer by waltyboy

 

Updated on 06/03/25 by Chris_OVO

 

 

There’s no particularly “dark art” to Power Move.  The monthly Power Move is awarded on the basis of a simple calculation: what percentage of your overall weekday usage do you use in the peak hours of 4PM to 7PM? I agree it would be handy if there was a transparent way of seeing within our online account, as the month progresses, how we are doing towards meeting the target.  But the online account does show quite clearly how many kWh we use every half hour during every 24 hour period, so it’s not too difficult to check every day or every few days for ourselves and do the arithmetic.  And of course @JNeve, that’s precisely how “they know” what we use when we use it. Plus, of course, we can all guess when our usage is likely to be highest, as you say with the consoling post-work cuppa which surprise surprise is exactly when national peak demand occurs: when we’re coming in from work, getting ourselves and children in and fed and watered etc. etc.  

 

@CB1539, I too hope the price drops soon! I wish they’d sort out these iniquitous standing charges, for a start! The 50p you mention earning is for a Power Move Plus “event”, of course, nothing to do with the monthly Power Move, although the events, when they are announced from time to time, do usually fall somewhere within the peak hours of 4 -7, understandably enough.  If you’re using around 7 kWh or so per weekday (your £2.50 electricity figure might include the daily SC?), although as you say it’s not particularly heavy, you do have some good wiggle room with that usage, some shifting and tweaking of weekday peak hour usage could well be possible?  It’s not always feasible, and I do feel for @Carter_99, 16.69% is not that far outside the target, usage must already be largely along the right lines? Maybe monitor closely on a weekly basis during March?

 

@SRF the solar panel dimension is frequently mentioned, and PV panels do usually mean that much consumption has already been shifted away from 4 - 7 and into daylight hours.  But I find especially in winter that my panels do not approach anything near my consumption requirements. Even in summer they cannot match the demands made by switching on the heavier items like the oven or the washing machine (unless it’s a really, really bright day, and even then the usual background stuff kicking in is enough to require consumption from the grid). I find my minimum 24-hour daily requirement for the house (i.e. without any heavy stuff to speak of) is 2.3 kWh, and the daily winter contribution from my panels is paltry: varies between an occasional 0 kWh and 3 kWh (on a good day, happening more and more as we moved through late February and into March, but never in Dec and hardly ever in Nov or Jan up here in Sunderland). Frequently the panels are producing 100 Watts or less.  Do you find that, for you, your solar panels cover all your daytime daily consumption, even in winter? I find I need to buy from the grid to supplement (more than supplement really) my panels, which does give me the flexibility to aim for the monthly Power Move. Mind you, my small battery doesn’t half help…

 

EDIT…Ah, have only just seen @EverythingNeedsAUserName post…exactly my feeling re PV panels, only very succinctly and graphically put, thank you…

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Blastoise186
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Super User
March 3, 2024

Actually, you’ve hoodwinked yourself. The clue is in the name OVO Power Move, NOT OVO Power Reduce.

By going on holiday, you caused your usage to flatline for that entire period meaning you didn’t realistically shift anything outside of peak hours. In fact, you didn’t really move any power usage at all - you just shut it all down making most of your property use 0kWh for the entire period. As such, you do not qualify for a reward - you have to shift usage to Off-Peak, not shut down all day! A fridge and a freezer running 24/7 is not enough to hit any targets ever - and this is an intentional part of the scheme design.

For your information, if you’d been on holiday for the entire month… You’d still have lost anyway because you’d have made your usage even more flatlined. There’s a built-in anti-cheat and while you wouldn’t trigger it by doing that, it’s unfair to let people win just because they haven’t been doing anything all month while others like myself actually put the effort into actually shifting usage.

There is no right of appeal in these cases. If you don’t play the game, you automatically lose the prize. It’s as simple as that. If you make a complaint, it’s almost certain to be rejected for the same reason. You’ve already admitted that you were away on holiday for pretty much the entire month and the data from your meter would back that up so you’ve got no option but to accept you lost the game and move on.

If you actually want to win the reward going forward, you’ll need to try something other than shutting down the house all month. We have tips and advice available on the Forum - check out some of the other threads we have here as they may help you.

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Rank 2
March 3, 2024

I think Blastoise186 has answered this question well. The OVO Power Move is just that. While it is about reducing energy use overall, its about moving it from peak to off-peak usage. I suspect we will all find what CB1539 has when we go on holiday. Yes, energy will be reduced during that time but there will be no shift and hence we will lose our monthly reward.

Rank 2
March 3, 2024

I’m with you…

 

I do understand the power-shift point. But there seems to be a dark art around the numbers. 
 

We do all we can reasonably do to shift our useage. All the tips plus more. I even boil the kettle outside the time and keep the hot water in a thermos of a cuppa I the stone age hours. 
 

In Feb we apparently totally missed all targets at 16.69%. 
 

I see all the messages about scripts to help monitor your numbers. Maybe there is something in there for OVO to show their workings transparently, rather than have the customers try to work it out. 

Rank 2
March 3, 2024

Had an email just now they said l didn’t hit last months target. but sometimes if you are working and you come in you want a cuppa why should you have to go without. and l do try using different  appliances all kinds of time if l can. how do they know when you use them.

 

Newcomer
March 3, 2024

I have given up trying as I previously said having solar panels prevents me using less when it’s dark.

CB1539Author
Rank 1
March 3, 2024

I note all comments.

I can only reply that I have never hit my monthly target despite using suggested appliances i.e. washing machines, TV, oven outside of 4-7pm. I have sometimes earned 50p occasionally.

Admittedly we are not what I would call heavy electricity users (average £2.50 daily) so just hoping prices will fall dramatically soon for everyones sake !

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
March 3, 2024

On average, I use roughly £1 a day of electricity - and I still manage to smash both Power Move Plus and I managed to hit Level 1 of Power Move in February, which is the first time I’ve succeeded at Power Move.

All this despite having a whole ton of Ubiquiti UniFi, powerful gaming laptop and a bunch of other stuff running 24/7. It IS possible to do, you just have to be clever about your usage.

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Rank 5
March 3, 2024

Power Move is a great idea but it does make it much harder to achieve the rewards if you're a low user / not at home for a chunk of the month. We use a reasonably low amount of electricity as a general rule, normally around 5-7ish kWh a day. Which, for our house, is almost phantom load. Actual usage over and above phantom load is around 3-5kWh. That makes it very hard to hit the Power Move target for us. Normally we come in around 0.5 to 1.5% or so under the limit.

Lately we've been using the dryer a lot which has increased our monthly usage quite a bit, but consequently - since it's used outside the 4-7pm window - has meant we easily hit this month's target, coming in at 8.72%. It's possible the reward might just pay for the dryer use.

@Blastoise186  and others are right. It's not about using less overall it's about moving as much of what you do use outside peak hours. If you use very little in general, especially if some days are completely flat phantom load only, then the task is so much harder.

I don't know if there's a happy medium that's suitable for all. Even the other schemes around really only benefit high users. Like trying to reduce your usage in a certain window by 3kWh. We barely use that all day sometimes so we'd never be able to reduce by that amount in a one hour window.

Easiest trick to have a chance of hitting the target is to do all your washing and drying during the week not at weekends. Still using the same electric over the week but moving the weekend use to during the week off-peak raises your overall weekday use, and reduces the peak window percentage.

Rank 7
March 3, 2024

I have given up trying as I previously said having solar panels prevents me using less when it’s dark.

Most of the winter months solar panels are just a black lump on the roof. Dec and Jan and perhaps Nov to Feb you could have entered.

Or you could add batteries and use your own electricity rather than import in the summer evenings. 

 

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Newcomer
March 3, 2024

You can use smart plugs. And program them to turn off the power during 1600-1900. Then consumption during gonna be 0. There would be spike after 1900 and more time to cool down to range. Totai 24 consumption would be almost the same.

That the goal of power move