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August 6, 2024
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Is the new power move criteria a con?

  • August 6, 2024
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I have got my feedback for this months Powermove and I’ve made it to 6.94%, i.e £5. I’ve never had anything other than the maximum before. During 6-9 Monday to Friday we do not cook with electricty, we do not use the washing machine or tumble drier, not even the iron or the toaster and we minimise the light. We use everything outside those hours, so how, in the name of all that is holy, can we not have made it to a £10 discount? We go to great efforts to do this, because we believe it’s constructive, but either I’ve got this wrong or OVO are conning us.

Best answer by Nukecad

For those shouting "Con" - please think about what you are saying.

How can something that doesn't cost you anything to take part and gives you a chance of earning a reward be a 'con'?

To be "conned" you have to be losing something, and the ‘conner’ gaining something.

Fair enough you may try but not be able to reach the target, not everybody can reach the target, but it hasn't cost you anything if you want to try.
Even if your smart meter has not sent  enough readings so you can’t then take part that month it hasn’t cost you amything.

Neither does OVO gain anything from it - in fact it costs them to run and costs them more if/when you do earn a reward.

Call it “dissappointing” if you don’t or can’t meet the targets.
Call it “frustrating” if your Smart Meter plays up and doesn’t send the required readings.
But calling it a “con” is simply incorrect.

37 replies

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
August 6, 2024

Are you making use of weekends by any chance?

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Rank 2
August 6, 2024

Are you making use of weekends by any chance?

Yes we are. I think we have understood this fully

Newcomer
August 6, 2024

It’s 100% a con, I was always hitting the maximum and then they kept changing the requirements. I live on my own and am very strict with my usage in the peak hours and barely earn £6. I renewed my contract with them for 2 years because I liked the power move initiative and it’s now pointless. 

Rank 2
August 6, 2024

It’s 100% a con, I was always hitting the maximum and then they kept changing the requirements. I live on my own and am very strict with my usage in the peak hours and barely earn £6. I renewed my contract with them for 2 years because I liked the power move initiative and it’s now pointless. 

They aslo anger me because when they take my direct debit at the start of the month it puts me nearly £600 in credit. I am supposed to have a credit electricity account, yet they are taking hundereds of pounds of me as a pensioner living on £15,000 a year as interest free loans. I need to find a more ethical supplier, but I’m not sure it exists! 

Rank 6
August 6, 2024

Hi @Nick in Worcester  I understand your frustration. I have excelled in every other power move but this one, no! I don't believe Ovo would con us but I just don't know how to make this one work - so am binning it this month :(  …..and having my dinner exactly at the time I want :)   

I did everything I could  - only background elec (fridge, freezer, ok, and TV but that really is it) 6 - 9; all higher usage appliances (washing machine, cooking, kettle, hoover, lawn mower etc etc) out of peak time and / or on weekends and I still didn't make the £2 (which tbh, even if I had, I would have questioned if it was worth it - I do not want to eat at 5.55 every night and certainly not after 9.05!) 

Rank 2
August 6, 2024

First time I’ve missed the max since the start of Power Move… 6.53% missed by 0.03 - £5 not £10 - literally just using base power between 6-9pm - I’m of the opinion it’s not possible to hit this target unless there are more than 8 weekend days in the month. OVO must be desperate to save on the scheme. Will see what happens in Autumn challenge if it’s not back to £15 pm and a realistic target I’m OUT! 

Rank 2
August 6, 2024

Hi @Nick in Worcester  I understand your frustration. I have excelled in every other power move but this one, no! I don't believe Ovo would con us but I just don't know how to make this one work - so am binning it this month :(  …..and having my dinner exactly at the time I want :)   

I did everything I could  - only background elec (fridge, freezer, ok, and TV but that really is it) 6 - 9; all higher usage appliances (washing machine, cooking, kettle, hoover, lawn mower etc etc) out of peak time and / or on weekends and I still didn't make the £2 (which tbh, even if I had, I would have questioned if it was worth it - I do not want to eat at 5.55 every night and certainly not after 9.05!) 

Yeah, I agree. I’m binning it so we can live our lives normally. I’m horrified to hear you didn’t even make to £2. That is terrible. You clearly did the same as me!

Rank 5
August 6, 2024

First time I’ve missed the max since the start of Power Move… 6.53% missed by 0.03 - £5 not £10 - literally just using base power between 6-9pm - I’m of the opinion it’s not possible to hit this target unless there are more than 8 weekend days in the month. OVO must be desperate to save on the scheme. Will see what happens in Autumn challenge iinit’s not back to £15 pm and a realistic target I’m OUT! 

Totally possible we used just 3.73% in peak hours this month. June we used 5.5% so that was before weekends were taken in to account but the threshold was higher. Thought it would be a bit of a struggle but we have done nothing different, I always do the laundry at the weekend anyway which never counted before. Dishwasher is never on at peak time and our EV is never charged peak time but is quite often charged at weekends which wasnt counted before.  There's normally at least me or my wife working from home a few days a week and we're done by 4'ish so that's extra power used during off peak, laptops, screens etc. Focus on using MORE off peak to reduce the proportion of peak useage, this is the key. It's all about keeping generation as low as possible at peak times to help generation and grid capacity it's NOT an environmental scheme total usage is nothing to do with it. You can be a really high user, we're quite high as we have an EV, and you'll make the target where as a low user won't it's all about the ratio of peak compared to off peak use. 

Peter E
Super User
Super User
August 6, 2024

In the end it’s a choice. OVO would never ask anyone to make their lives impossible or even dangerous to achieve the targets. Some people, like myself, have an EV and they can charge out of the peak and this makes reaching the target a lot easier. However, you would also not want to be paying my electricity bill.

 

Proportionately, households using a small amount of power a month do much better than heavy users like me but find it much more difficult to meet the target. A few pounds off of my bill is hardly noticeable. A few pounds off a light user’s bill is probably quite significant. All OVO are asking you to do is to make an effort not to use peak time electricity and if you succeed then you are rewarded. It’s not a con as some users manage ok and we all have to meet the same targets. I will also be looking forward to going back to the same rewards that we had last winter.

 

Peter

 

Reducing my yearly fossil fuel usage with an EV (-900 litres petrol), A2AHP (-8,700 kWh gas) and Timed Immersion heater (-1,500 kWh gas)
Rank 5
August 6, 2024

Spot on!