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I have three meters - Why is my Monthly statement wrong again?

  • July 14, 2020
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Hello all.

I only joined OVO in March, so I’ve only had 4 monthly statements so far & every 1 of them have been wrong.

As a new customer I’ve been keeping an eye on my account, just to make sure my direct debit payment covers my actual usage costs.

I’m guessing I have a different setup to most, as in the fact that we have 2 gas meters & 1 electric. only 1 gas, 1 elec are smart meters.

The normal view on the illustrative statement is correct up until my monthly statement has been produced, so the billing on all 3 meters is in sync. Albeit as long as a manually supply my dumb meter reading.

But my actual bill so far every month has only incorporated any 1 of the meters, or 2 of the meters or even once after a phone call to OVO to let them know, it had been amended to show a combination of 2 different meters.

Every month I place a call to OVO to let them know my monthly statement is wrong again & eventually OVO produces a correct statement.

I’m almost certain it’s the 3 meters & not the usual 2 that are the problem.

I did have the smart meters turn dumb for 6 weeks in May- June with the IHD also showing no data, a power cut during the night restored the service, I lost the daily smart meter readings for a week the end of June so yet another phone call to OVO, but OVO we’re still receiving readings, my OVO account is now showing smart meter readings OK but is not showing any usage data for July.

I've had more conversations with OVO in 3 months than I’ve had with any energy supplier over the last 10 yrs.

How hard can it be to get my actual monthly statement correct.

 

Tom...

Best answer by TomThumb

Updated on 18/10/23 by Abby_OVO

 

Sorry to hear of the difficulties you’ve had with the billing on your account since switching to OVO with multiple meters.

 

Usually, even with more that one gas meter associated to your account you should receive a monthly summary covering the combined usage on both meters. The easiest way to view these monthly summaries is via the ‘Billing history’ page of your online account of OVO app (download for Android or iOS).

 

Exact appearance may vary

 

If you notice any errors or missing usage on these monthly summaries, reach out to our Support Team who can take a look in to the details of your account and raise this to our technical team if it’s not something they are able to resolve immediately. 

In this example the combination of a smart and non-smart gas meter caused an unexpected technical bug. See the comment below for the action taken to resolve this unusual issue.
 

 

 Having given OVO 9 months to resolve my billing issues to no avail, I changed  my approach this month & I decided to raise an official complaint on this matter.

 

This resulted with an informative chat with the technical department & fingers crossed a full resolution.

 

 Previously I had requested that my traditional gas meter be moved to a separate new account, leaving my 2 smart meters in place, but after the customer service agent consulted with management, the answer came back as a NO.

 

This time however, ovo have agreed to this & a new account has been setup for the sole use of my dumb gas meter.

From a customer point of view, it’s the best possible outcome.

If all goes well?

 

I will gain accurate monthly bill’s,

 

I will see usage history across all 3 meters, 

 

It will make my energy usage / costs / bill’s & statements a hell of a lot easier to manage,

 

Im guessing my traditional gas meter will still have a conflict with it’s projected Vs actual kWh’s usage & costs, given the fact this meter is heavily used during the summer & has zero usage over the winter months,  I will be in a better position to identify any mismatch as this meter is no longer grouped with the remaining 2 smart meters. I’m also hoping that ovo’s backend system will see this as a trend & adjust it’s estimates accordingly for this supply?

 

I won’t have to call ovo every month to complain about my account & bills,

 

The only drawback is I’ll have to click to switch between accounts on a drop down tab 😳👍

(I can cope, bring it on)

 


What I did ascertain from the call with the technical department, 

The only error found on my account was a validation error for my traditional gas meter for this month?

The old billing system can’t cope with 3 meters!

The new billing platform can’t cope with 3 meters ? (I never got to test it!)

Ovo had no clue of what was broken, so didn’t know what to fix?

Ovo should have listened to my suggestion of 2 account months ago! (wishful thinking)

 

Hopefully after next months bill / statement, if all goes well, I can post an update & finally mark this as case closed? 


Tom...

 

 


 

 

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Tim_OVO
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September 21, 2020

The failure of the smart meter team to keep the customer updated & informed in the timeframe set by Ovo is disappointing, especially as the set timeframe had been extended & again missed.

 

@TomThumb I’m aware of large volumes of cases for this S2 team have caused a delay in working them, and I’m getting cases escalated and worked on a case by case basis, and I have now included your account number in this pot.

 

In your example, you’ve confirmed that a site visit by an engineer is needed. As this isn’t an emergency, a 17 working day appointment is standard practice. But at least the S2 team can make sure this engineer visit really is the best action at this point. 

 

On a side note if any of the mods pick this up, 
I did try the web chat this morning, it all seemed fine on my side, but the agent asked

“are you still there” & “as I have not heard from you” then ended the chat.

I guess the agent couldn’t see my chat, if this was a glitch or a more widespread issue, I’ve leave it in your hands.

 

You’re the second forum user to mention this today, and I’ve passed on both bits of feedback on to the software engineers that look after this web chat tool. I’m so sorry for that you were effected, and it’s being looked at!

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TomThumb
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September 21, 2020

Cheers for your input @Tim_OVO 

Call me cynical but reading between the lines as it were, I got the impression from my call to Ovo this morning that there had been some notes on my account that an engineer visit was needed to visit my property to resolve my smart meter issue, 

so if my home visit is indeed the best way forward & has been sanctioned by the S2 team, I have not been informed as such.

 

Also @Tim_OVO is there any chance of bouncing my statement / billing issues up to the next line in the billing department as the quote from the billing team of it being resolved & that I should have no more issues was over exaggerated & premature.

 

TIA 

Tom…

ps: in case it’s useful : failed web chat this morning,   iPad Air / iPadOS 14 / chrome browser 

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Transparent
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September 22, 2020

Ah… you’re right @Tim_OVO - this probably wasn’t the best Topic to post in.

 

*Edited by mod: please be advised that the comments this refers to have been moved to this topic*

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TomThumb
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September 22, 2020

Good/useful feedback @TomThumb 

There should be a pretty exhaustive set of criteria to be fulfilled before code changes are made to the operational version of the new Billing System.

If it were HH data that was awry, then that’s not particularly damaging.

But we’re seeing issues on the monthly usage (which gets used for the next month’s bill) 
 

@Transparent  Just adding to your thoughts,  over the few days that my last bill / statement should have generated, I had been keeping a close eye on my account, the DD recommended amount on my Ovo account had a prominent view & was up by 20%.

That figure is now only showing a 3% increase,  but as I have still not been billed for the previous months usage & my electric meter has gone dumb, I’m expecting that figure to change especially when you factor in my 3rd meter.

 

Given the fact that suppliers forecast that demand & expected usage increases over the colder winter months, my 3rd meter (gas) is the complete opposite, in the fact that it will have zero usage, plus some ancillary electric equipment will not be running over the winter months that will again offset their predictions.

 My statements from Ovo on the 1st page sometimes include a forecast of annual cost for gas, 

But as I have 2 gas meters, I have no way of knowing if that projected cost is for both gas meters or just 1. 

As far as the capabilities go of either my Ovo on the web or via the Ovo app, the billing is set up to identify 2 separate gas meters, but on the usage side,  neither can differentiate between my 2 gas meters.

 

Not knowing the projected usage Vs actual usage of my 3rd meter (gas) is of concern 

 

 

Tom....

 

 

 

 

 

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TomThumb
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September 23, 2020

Call me cynical but reading between the lines as it were, I got the impression from my call to Ovo this morning that there had been some notes on my account that an engineer visit was needed to visit my property to resolve my smart meter issue, 

so if my home visit is indeed the best way forward & has been sanctioned by the S2 team, I have not been informed as such.

 

Update

 I have finally had a response from the smart team.

 I’ve just received an email stating that an engineer visit is needed to resolve my electric smart meter turning dumb issue.

 

& “Please be advised someone will be in contact to arrange a date and time for this to be booked in, at present I cannot advise a time frame for this.”

 

I’m sure my account should have confirmation of an engineer being booked for next month for this very reason already in place.


Tom...

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Tim_OVO
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September 23, 2020

I’m sure my account should have confirmation of an engineer being booked for next month for this very reason already in place.

 

It will do if my memory serves me correctly, @TomThumb - so at least we know the right process has been put in place already! Now, we await the engineer….. 

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TomThumb
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September 25, 2020

If @Tim_OVO can clarify a slight anomaly I’ve noticed with an old statement.

Is there ever a calorific value X 0 ?

 I’m guessing the current value should read circa X 39?

 

Tom...

 

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Transparent
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September 25, 2020

Oh no…. that’s hilarious!  :hugging:

The minimum input permitted for a Calorific Value is currently 37.

If there was a period when the CV sampling failed to deliver any result, the regulations state that the Energy Supplier can only invoice you as if 37MJ/m³ was the figure.

I think the programmer responsible for this section of the Billing System will be hanging his/her head in shame. A divide-by-zero is such a basic mistake!

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TomThumb
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September 25, 2020

@Transparent  cheers for your quick response & clarification, you are an asset to the forum.

 

Tom...

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October 6, 2020

Update 

A quick recap, I have 3 meters, but since joining Ovo in March 2020, I keep receiving monthly bills for only 2 out of my 3 meters.

That is until today, I’ve just received my latest statement & I have actually been billed on all 3 meters, a big plus for me is that now all 3 meters are aligned & running on the same billing period,

That will make my next statement so much easier to do a quick check on.

 

Only time will tell if this trend will continue over onto my next statement, but as my statements are due on the 11th of every month, I haven’t got a long wait..

 

 

@Tim_OVO the calorific value in the table from my statement is still showing zero.

 

 

3 meters: Smart Gas & Smart Elec / Traditional Gas meter