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Alternative Fuel Payment - Not Eligible?

  • February 15, 2023
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Finally got through to OVO support this morning - and (not entirely unexpectedly) have now been told my account is NOT flagged to receive the £200 Alternative Fuel Payment automatically … 
I know that there WILL eventually be a process to apply manually - although heaven knows how much longer that means we’ll be waiting to receive funds originally promised last October … but I’m at a loss to know why our account hasn’t been automatically flagged as eligible and wonder how many others are in the same boat.

We have lived at the same address for almost 30 years
Our supply was moved to OVO from SSE last summer - we had been with SSE for many years - therefore we clearly have a relationship with an energy provider.

There is no main gas to the village - this is confirmed by the inclusion of our postcode on the list of off-gas-postcodes compiled by X0serve 
(Link to Xoserver provided in this government document:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1130933/domestic-alternative-fuel-payment-scheme-suppliers-guidance.pdf
Download directly from here: 
https://www.xoserve.com/media/fadn4tnc/off-gas-live-postcodes- 2022.xlsx?term=Off-gas )

Our central heating runs on oil and like many others I have long-standing accounts with several large, local and national heating oil suppliers. Since this is the only form of central heating we have ever had in three decades at the property this WILL have been confirmed in the most recent census information.

Clearly I don’t fall into the houseboat or park-home dwelling, totally disconnected from the network category so I’m both puzzled and frustrated by now having to wait even longer for the support announced 5 months ago to help over winter - and jump through whatever hoops lay ahead in order to apply for this payment. I’m also worried that since I clearly DO NOT fall into any of the categories that would require me to apply manually, the system / form or whatever is eventually launched won’t be designed to fit those in the same position as us - since clearly we SHOULD have been picked up automatically … I guess that question will be answered when the application process opens at the end of the month 
https://www.gov.uk/get-help-energy-bills/alternative-fuels

I do appreciate that if OVO haven’t been informed that we’re eligible there’s only so much they can do - but my question is WHY have we not been flagged as eligible and how many others are in the same position ? 

Best answer by HMW

Updated on 22/06/23 by Emmanuelle_OVO

Think you are eligible for the Alternative Fuel Payment but didn’t receive it? 

 

The scheme is closed now. We’ll update when further information arises for this winter.

 

You can still check out the GOV website here. If you cannot check online, call the helpline:

 

Telephone: 0808 175 3287
Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm
Find out about call charges

 

We are in central Northumberland and no gas main within 20 miles in any direction. OVO confirm we are not entitled to the AFP.  It’s turning into a farce and as we all suspect we’ll be bounced from one to the other and get nowhere quickly.

Are you sure OVO said you were not entitled to the AFP as they don’t make this decision?  It may be that, like me, your postcode was simply not on the government list and therefore we have to apply manually when the application process opens (early March - still waiting!)  See below from government website:

https://www.gov.uk/get-help-energy-bills/alternative-fuels

If you use alternative fuels for heating

You may be eligible for a £200 Alternative Fuels Payment (AFP) if both the following are true:

  • your household is not connected to the mains gas grid
  • you use alternative fuels as your main form of heating

This is on top of the £400 from your electricity supplier.

You’re eligible for this payment if the main way you heat your home uses:

  • tank or bottled gas
  • liquid petroleum gas (LPG)
  • oil
  • wood
  • solid fuel

Most homes that are eligible for this payment will get it automatically as a credit on their electricity bills from February 2023.

You may not get the payment automatically if your home is either:

  • in an area which is mainly connected to the gas grid
  • not connected to either the gas or the electricity grid

If you do not get this payment automatically

You may have to apply for this payment through the AFP Alternative Fund if you do not get it automatically - for example, because you do not have a contract with an electricity supplier.

Applications will open in early March.

41 replies

Newcomer
March 29, 2023

@DMGM congratulations on finally getting your payment, unfortunately our ‘saga’ is ongoing! I have been onto OVO for several weeks now, simply asking them to confirm they have us listed as eligible and when the payment might be received. OVO’s first line CS agents have unfortunately covered themselves in no glory, by basically providing totally irrelevant responses and passing me from pillar to post and the lack of continuity with their communications is just is beyond belief. The most recent development is that they directed me to the Government portal, stating I had to make my application there, so I did. Last week I got response from BEIS saying my application was unsuccessful because their records show that my payment ‘is being paid automatically via my electricity provider’ so to contact them. Needless to say I have been given no choice to escalate this matter both within BEIS and OVO in an attempt break the out of this perpetual loop, that the government and OVO have managed to create!

April 19, 2023

Despite my postcode being on the acceptable “list”  and not receiving the payment automatically I applioed manually using the government provided form.  Now, several days into week 6 since submitting the application, I have not heard anything.

I am curious as to whether or not others have or are having the same experience.

Firedog
Super User
Super User
April 19, 2023

Yes, exactly the same experience. I emailed my local council six weeks and a day after applying asking for an update, including the reference and a copy of the acknowledgement from gov.uk. I had a response a day later reading:

Thank you for contacting the Benefits Team by e-mail. Please accept this as confirmation we have received your enquiry.

 “We are currently dealing with an exceptional number of enquiries. This means that it is likely to take longer than usual to respond to your enquiry, but we will reply as soon as we can.”

Just like being in the army: hurry up and wait. Give your patience muscle a workout 🙂

 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Firedog
Super User
Super User
April 20, 2023

Just to follow up: 

Six weeks and a couple of days after submitting an application on the Apply for alternative fuel bill support if you do not get it automatically page at gov.uk, £200 dropped into my bank account.

I was worried that my application had been rejected because I stocked up in August 2022, but the application form only asked for proof of purchases after 1 September 2022. So, for anyone in the same situation - don’t worry, the staff at the BEIS EBSS office are clearly human. I had an immediate response to my enquiry sent to alternativefunding@ebss.beis.gov.uk, so that’s where to send any concerns you may have. My local council denied all knowledge, saying that they just pass on whatever the government sends them. 

The £200 has already been spent on sustainably-sourced logs for my wood-burning stove.

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Newcomer
April 23, 2023

Still trying to sort this out, got my application rejected first time, called them and a new application was created, from that I gather there was an issue with my address (we live in Wales so the house name is in Welsh for the local authority and in English on OVO) OVO chat lines just say no no. So now trying to get OVO to amend my address, and to amend my application. As we are on the priority register this is so much effort.

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
April 23, 2023

Still trying to sort this out, got my application rejected first time, called them and a new application was created, from that I gather there was an issue with my address (we live in Wales so the house name is in Welsh for the local authority and in English on OVO) OVO chat lines just say no no. So now trying to get OVO to amend my address, and to amend my application. As we are on the priority register this is so much effort.

Addresses can cause issues generally. 

For example here is one where the national database of meter details needed updating.

Easy to get caught out if Royal mail data is different to the national database of meters, is different to what local authorities, OVO etc  hold.

If you post how you get on i am sure it will help other customers. 

Newcomer
May 4, 2023

I’ve given up chasing answers … OVO didn’t deliver on any of my enquiries, other than to direct me to the government portal to make an application, which was rejected because BEIS said that I should be getting it automatically via my electricity supplier. So to try and break this vicious cycle I’ve now escalated it with BEIS, but many weeks on and way beyond the 10 working days they quote, I’m still waiting on a response to my escalation and I’ve not been given a date/deadline for a response, other than being told that payments could be made as late as June 2023 … it’s all a bit of a farce, but I remain patient 👍😉😉🤐

May 4, 2023

Into week 8 since my application. 2 weeks ago BEIS acknowledged the application was still in the system “Local Authority teams actively work on clearing all backlogs and complete all remaining checks on your application”

I really cannot understand why their is such a delay.  Is it the BEIS teams or some  other bottleneck?   

 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
May 4, 2023

Local Authority teams actively work on clearing all backlogs and complete all remaining checks on your application ...

I really cannot understand why their is such a delay.    

 

The local council is the last link in the chain. So long as they can confirm that you are who you say you are, living where you say you live, the funds should be passed by them to your bank account, assuming they know its details. This would normally be the one you pay your council tax from. You could ask them what’s holding the payment up.

(I got an email from BEIS telling me that my application had been successful - a week after the £200 had arrived in my account.)

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Newcomer
September 26, 2023

Despite applying for the Alternative Fuel Payment in February 2023, the payment has still not materialised.  I did contact the gov.uk helpline in April and was told that my application had been received and that there was a backlog which could take a few months to resolve.  Trying to get back in touch but the numbers which I was using have now been discontinued.  I have contacted my council (Powys) and am waiting for somebody to call me back tomorrow.  Are there still folk waiting or have we just been forgotten?