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Radio teleswitch (RTS) shutdown sunset FAQ
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Blastoise186
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If we can’t see another box next to the meter, we unfortunately can’t give a clear answer.

Please post more photos showing the entire meter backboard and everything around the meter.


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BPLightlog wrote:
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Please can anyone tell me if this is a Radio Teleswitch meter?  I can see another box next to it. Although the meter says EDF Energy Networks Ltd, our current supplier is OVO.

No, that’s not an RTS meter. It’s a simple ‘budgie’ meter, totalising kWh. 
 

Thank you for confirming.


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Blastoise186 wrote:

If we can’t see another box next to the meter, we unfortunately can’t give a clear answer.

Please post more photos showing the entire meter backboard and everything around the meter.

Will do asap, thanks Blastoise186.


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Blastoise186 wrote:

If we can’t see another box next to the meter, we unfortunately can’t give a clear answer.

Please post more photos showing the entire meter backboard and everything around the meter.

Will do asap, thanks Blastoise186.

Hope this is not too blurry to make out. Thanks for your help with this.


Blastoise186
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Thanks, that helps a lot. Just wanted to let you know that we’ve had two new Forum Moderators join this week and I’d like to help show them the ropes a bit of the queries we get here. This shouldn’t disrupt the advice I give you, but I’d like to let @Christopher_OVO and @Shads_OVO take a peek at this too.

I can confirm that you DO indeed have an RTS Meter. I can tell because the device in the top-right corner is a Radio Teleswitch. As such, you are affected by the RTS Shutdown.  You appear to be on Economy 7 but I can’t tell which Group Code you’re on - though that’s not too big a deal based on your question.

Also, I note that your existing meter is 20 years old and therefore is up for Recertification, based on your Meter Serial Number being a D04 and with the certification stamp of March 2004. Please note that if you leave the current meter in place, its accuracy going forward can’t be guaranteed.

I’d recommend you get that booked in to be replaced sooner rather than later. If you’re happy to try it now, check out https://smart-booking.ovoenergy.com and that tool should help you get this booked in. It’s free because OVO will cover the cost on your behalf.


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I have a pay as you go economy 7 meter which was installed after I tried as pay as you go small meter which stopped working and my hot water also stopped working. I was told that smart meters aren’t completely with economy 7 and that the signal didn’t work in my area anyway. My concern is that the all electric heating and hot water will stop working when the radio teleswitch signal is switched off. Also I want to remain on pay as you go. 
 

Can anyone please advise?

 


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Blastoise186 wrote:

Thanks, that helps a lot. Just wanted to let you know that we’ve had two new Forum Moderators join this week and I’d like to help show them the ropes a bit of the queries we get here. This shouldn’t disrupt the advice I give you, but I’d like to let @Christopher_OVO and @Shads_OVO take a peek at this too.

I can confirm that you DO indeed have an RTS Meter. I can tell because the device in the top-right corner is a Radio Teleswitch. As such, you are affected by the RTS Shutdown.  You appear to be on Economy 7 but I can’t tell which Group Code you’re on - though that’s not too big a deal based on your question.

Also, I note that your existing meter is 20 years old and therefore is up for Recertification, based on your Meter Serial Number being a D04 and with the certification stamp of March 2004. Please note that if you leave the current meter in place, its accuracy going forward can’t be guaranteed.

I’d recommend you get that booked in to be replaced sooner rather than later. If you’re happy to try it now, check out https://smart-booking.ovoenergy.com and that tool should help you get this booked in. It’s free because OVO will cover the cost on your behalf.

Thank you, you have an impressive grasp of energy meters! Thank you for the link and I shall get the work booked right away.


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I have a pay as you go economy 7 meter which was installed after I tried as pay as you go small meter which stopped working and my hot water also stopped working. I was told that smart meters aren’t completely with economy 7 and that the signal didn’t work in my area anyway. My concern is that the all electric heating and hot water will stop working when the radio teleswitch signal is switched off. Also I want to remain on pay as you go. 
 

Can anyone please advise?

Smart meters can cope with E7 in many circumstances but it would depend on several other factors. 
For the RTS part, the switch off has been pushed out and as far as I’m aware, even without the signal, things would keep working , just at the same switching points as before. 
They will need replacing though, at some point. 


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I'm an apprentice Electrician and have a customer looking for advice. Their electricity bills are astronomical at the moment. The have a mix of storage and panel heaters currently, and are on THTC from over 30 years ago. They are now looking to go onto an Economy 7 tariff and when they spoke to OVO they were simply told No with very little explanation. 

Now doing some research, the RTS will obviously be shut down in the next year so looking for some advice on behalf of our customer but also to do some research for future questions and my own knowledge.

A quick look shows that a Smart Meter with a 5th port looks like their only option. Can anyone confirm this or give anymore insight? I may phone OVO myself and ask for clarification before going back to the customer.

Thanks in advance

 


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Howdy @EllieSLS !

Can you give me a day or two for this one? I’m literally heading to OVO’s Bristol HQ tomorrow and that may allow me to access a certain contact or two who know an absolute TON about this stuff.

If you don’t mind holding out for a bit longer, there’s a small chance I might just be able to get their thoughts on this.

I’ll get back to you ASAP!


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EllieSLS wrote:

... when they spoke to OVO they were simply told No with very little explanation. 

 

That appears sadly to be the standard response, because the issue is far more complicated than it seems to be. I suggest you do a search for THTC in these forums to find some of the challenges customers have faced, especially since it became common knowledge that the RTS system was going away (now in 2025).

OVO is working on a smart meter solution for THTC customers, but we have no idea when it will be available. They’ve been saying ‘soon’ for a year or two now. This means that customers in this situation are effectively stuck, because OVO won’t provide new meters until the solution is up and running, and no other supplier can or will take on THTC customers. That’s not all - some of those affected are in what are called ‘Load Managed Areas’, where the DNO moves the load around timewise to give everyone in the area a fair share without overloading the inadequate distribution network. So the DNO has to be involved as well. 

Please check what tariff (its name, and the unit and daily rates) your customer is currently on. It should be specified on a recent bill. Check also how much electricity they’re using at the two rates, e.g. over the past twelve months. It might be possible to switch to a more economical tariff.

 


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Howdy! I’m back!

Firstly, please accept my apologies for the delay. The reason for it was to get a chance to chat directly with someone who I had a strong belief would know the de-facto answer to this one - and I was right. This individual is extremely well placed to help us with queries just like this one and they are always happy to help the Forum with sticky cases like the one you asked us yesterday.

@EllieSLS I can confirm that OVO is indeed working on a proper fix for this and just today I’ve been given the very latest info that’s literally hot off the press. We will have an update for you in the next few weeks so please keep checking the Forum. I can’t say what it is juuuuuuuuuust yet, but it’s promising news and I’ll be starting to draft the announcement post later this week in the private areas of the Forum - this post will reveal everything you’re asking about all at once.

It is highly likely that the OVO Forum will be the first place that this news gets announced - we get told stuff pretty rapidly and can act much faster than the Support Team, so I don’t think you’ll be able to get much from them before I get my post out.

Would you like us to keep you informed when the post goes live?

Oh, and if you’ve got any other questions, please do feel free to ask. We can’t 100% promise we can answer everything, but we’re always up for giving it a go.

We also wish you the best of luck with your apprenticeship.


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Thank you very much for the reply. Looking forward to hearing.


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Hey @EllieSLS

 

The team are aware of issues facing our customers that are stuck on THTC and we’re working hard to make sure that a fix will be available. When we have more information the plan is to contact the affected customers to let them know the next steps. 


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Please do. I'm on THTC on a RTS. I'm Disabled and on benefits. I'm stuck on this issue. I want a smart meter but OVO, has told me 6 to 8 months minimum before they are ready. I'm in Scotland. We were with SSE, but then SSE was bought by OVO. Customer services has little clue about these inherited systems. I get passed from one department to the other. I'm on PAYG but keep getting bills for over £700. This needs fixing, ASAP.


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Hey @Doink,

 

I’m really sorry to hear this,

 

In the meantime, I’d advise getting added to the priority services register. This means we can send regular meter readers to the property so that your bills aren’t estimated. 

 

 


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Already on the register. Hasn't made any difference. Only yesterday I  was on the phone for hours. Line dropped. No callback. It's a joke, but I'm not laughing. Like everyone else on RTS I'm trapped with OVO. No other company will let you switch because of the meter type.


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Hmm… That’s strange… I’m on PSR myself and whenever I call up, I get through in under 10 seconds every single time…

Try Live Chat at https://ovoenergy.com/help instead - it’s usually faster and more reliable than most other options.


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I’m in the same situation. I have a pay as you go key meter and I was told by OVO last June when it was installed that it was on economy 7. It was installed because my pay as you go smart meter became faulty and I was told by OVO that it was because smart meters cannot get a signal to my area. Since then I have had several emails from OVO informing me that my meter wasn’t working properly. I’m certain that it is working properly and spoke to OVO and was told not to worry I didn’t need a new meter. I think that OVO didn’t register the new key meter on my account because I had several attempts speaking to and emailing customer services and long conversations which involved complicated meter headings. Despite all my efforts on Monday I received a bill for over £798. I immediately phoned OVO about this.
 

However the operator on the phone on Thursday said that my smart meter was faulty and simply didn’t grasp that I do not have a smart meter. I was also informed that im not actually on economy 7 despite being told I was over one year ago. I need to be on one of these tariffs as I have Dimplex storage heaters and hot water cylinder designed to use economy 7.
 

I’m  now in the position of getting a new smart meter on 1st of July without knowing if it’s going to now work in my rural area and if it will work with economy 7 because I was simply told to ask the engineer who installs it. 


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Sorry for the gate crashing tonight! But we have news for those watching this thread.

We’ve just put out a NEW update regarding the RTS Service Shutdown. Please check it out below.

Thank you for your patience!

The OVO Forum Volunteers


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When does support for radio teleswitch (RTS) meters end?


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Hi @lisog2702 ,

Sorry for missing this last night.

As per the latest updates, you have until June 2025 before RTS Service ends, support for ALL RTS Meters will also end by September 2025 and this is a hard deadline. Please do not rely on the September date however - the official shutdown will commence on the 1st July 2025.

In addition, The OVO Forum and all Forum Volunteers - myself included - will likely stop providing most forms of advice around the July-September 2025 range for anything RTS related other than offering migration advice. We won’t be able to do much more than that once the signal is gone.

We strongly recommend you get yours upgraded before then. If you’re able to, please book the upgrade well ahead of the deadline, as we suspect there’ll be a massive rush towards the last few months of that date.


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