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Why can't my supplier resolve my smart meter Wide-Area-Network (WAN) signal issues?

  • March 28, 2022
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Who has a SSE or OVO installed smart meter that doesn’t work and more significantly has NEVER worked? Succumbing to promotional pressure and keen to save/monitor my electricity usage, I had one installed 3.5 years ago — and it never worked from the off, save after a few months to provide exactly the same as the old one. After complaints and taking the matter to the ombudsman service (upheld on all counts and resolved with goodwill and indefinite pledges to sort out the issue). That was 20 months ago and there’s been zilch in action or communication since. Now that OVO is running the show, we will see what happens. I have no information on whether my situation is unique or common and why this is so, except that it is largely a government communications agency’s fault (DCC). Hence my question. I am in a small town in the northeast of Scotland, where everything else digital works just fine - with, as far as I know, three SSE electricity sub-stations and three digital/telecoms masts within a mile of my house. Thanks for taking the time and trouble to post if you can help or enlighten me in any way.

Best answer by Blastoise186

Updated on 01/12/25 by Ben_OVO

Hi @rawx ,

I’m Blastoise186, one of the forum volunteers here. I don’t work for OVO myself and cannot access your account, but I might be able to help figure out some diagnostics. Please could you post some photos of your meters, as I need to figure out what you’ve got so that I know what I can try.

If you have SMETS2, then your location means you’re on the Long-Range Radio based Arqiva WAN. All smart meters do ultimately connect to DCC, but there’s two ways of doing so. If you were in the Southern Territory, it would have been the Cellular based Telefonica WAN instead, but that option wouldn’t have worked as well in rural parts of Scotland, whereas Long Range Radio has a far better chance.

While the tech and concept sounds great on paper, in reality the Arqiva WAN has been plagued with issues and you are not alone here. Unfortunately however, fixing those issues is beyond OVO’s control as only Arqiva can install more infrastructure and repair their existing masts. It is only after this is done, that OVO/SSE would be able to truly fix your smart meter issues. Even if you switch supplier, I’m afraid this same issue will still affect you.

One of the best resources we’ve got is the website SmartMe, which we commonly use here on the forum anytime we get stuck or need reliable source info.

My own smart meter, Raichu, is a SMETS2 Aclara SGM1411-B with a WNC SKU1 Communications Hub, installed by OVO in April 2021. It which runs on the Telefonica WAN as I’m in the West Midlands. For me, it’s always worked perfectly as well.

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Blastoise186
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March 26, 2024

3G Range Extenders probably wouldn’t have any effect. The Cellular Comms used in the Southern Territory run in a different way to regular devices and are more heavily locked down.

It can only be achieved using approved equipment.

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Newcomer
March 26, 2024

OK, so where/how do you get ‘approved’ equipment?

Blastoise186
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March 26, 2024

The best way of that is via your supplier, through their customer service team. They can help with the arrangements.

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Newcomer
March 26, 2024

OVO is supplier - blank drawn there, they say there is nothing they can do if the extended antenna doesn’t get a signal - this is the 30cm long thing on a somewhat useless 20cm wire.


There is no ‘specialist’ kit, unless you know something different?

 

Are O2 using non standard 3G, why wouldn’t a simple range extender work?

Blastoise186
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March 26, 2024

Well, in edge cases there is the T3 Aerial, but it’s rare and has to be specially requested from DCC.

I’ll ask about where those are up to. It’s private infrastructure, so you can’t just use any old extender.

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Newcomer
March 26, 2024

Just researched the T3 options and happy the have one if that works. No one in OVO customer services seems to know anything about them.

 

Do you know who I speak with or what i ask for?

 

Also spoken to secondary metering provider that installs external aerials for exactly these situations. They said all aerials are going to work with coaxial cables. Having work down now and running a coax from outside to meter room wouldn’t cost anything, do you it would be good to have it there for when/if I could get agreement for a T3?

Blastoise186
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March 26, 2024

This is all stuff I’ll have to tag-team with someone at OVO who knows more than me about.

Please bear with me - getting permission to talk to that person and/or get the info from them may take a while.

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Firedog
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March 26, 2024

OVO is supplier - blank drawn there, they say there is nothing they can do if the extended antenna doesn’t get a signal - this is the 30cm long thing

 

OVO can do no more. This is the procedure for problematic locations: smartme.co.uk. Sadly, DCC aren’t known for their speed in dealing with cases like this.

I suppose your original meter was installed long before smart ones came along; nobody thought that wireless connectivity was a consideration back then. You have a couple of options: (a) grin and bear it until such time as DCC get you sorted out, submitting readings manually meanwhile, or (b) ask OVO to move your meter to a more wireless-friendly spot. That won’t be without significant cost to you, with the possibility that the distributor would have to be involved as well. 

The DCC wireless network isn’t the same as a mobile phone one. While the fact that you have good mobile connectivity to an O2 mast is a positive sign, there’s no knowing whether the DCC signal would use the same mast; O2 put the antennae for DCC where DCC tell them to. That’s why connectivity problems like yours become DCC’s headache. 

 

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Newcomer
March 27, 2024

OK, so I have the T2 aerial left installed.
Step one should be that I make sure OVO have actually registered the connection failure with DCC?

Then who do I chase, is it OVO, or can I hassle DCC directly?

Blastoise186
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March 27, 2024

You can’t go directly to DCC. Try https://smart-meter-help.ovoenergy.com though - that might work.

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