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Switched supplier: Economy 7 smart meter not sending reads and IHD needs re-configuring?

  • August 10, 2023
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Hopefully theres nothing to be concerned about but…..

Had a SMETS2 meter for about 9 months with SEB and its always worked fine, as has the IHD. Have recently been switched to OVO and suddenly Im being told my account is not getting readings

Is there a usual ‘bedding in time’ so to speak? Lights on the meter are all flashing green every 5 seconds, and the IHD usage reading are updating as normal

Yes I can supply manual readings I guess, but it rather defeats the point

 

Hopefully Im jumping the gun and it will sort itself out, but thought it best to ask

TIA

Best answer by JessicaRose

Updated on 18/12/25 by Chris_OVO

 

Posting here as I started a similar thread and @Firedog linked me to this.

Looking at the above and talking to OVO, I think I understand the cause of the problem and also have a possible solution albeit not an instant one, having spoken with OVO CS

The coding for the meter is switching the tariffs correctly, but the tariff number is wrong.  Tarif 1 has been linked to off peak and tariff 2 has been linked to peak.  I have just had a long but useful call with OVO CS and they have agreed this is the likely issue.  I have been asked to conduct a load test and note which tariffs change and by how much during each on / off peak section of the next day and call back with the results.

Having done that for this afternoons off peak, whilst using my hot water (draws only from the off peak circuit), the immersion heater is working and switched on at the correct time (1pm) but it is being attributed to tariff 1 for cost (peak rate) as that has gone up on the. meter and tariff 2 has not moved at all despite me using an immersion heater for nearly 4 hours now.

If you’re having this issue, it isn't going to resolve over time (unless OVO realise the mistake and update all the affected meters) so please call the CS and tell them so they can resolve the issue.  If you do your load tests in advance, note times and readings for each tariff at the start end end of each switch time, directly from the meter (not the IHD) and the tariff rate displayed on the meter at the time.

I don't think it will be. quick fix, the response form CS was once the issue is confirmed with these readings, it's an engineer visit after that but this should get the ball rolling to get the issue highlighted to OVO and corrected.

 

Hope this is of some use and helps to get this resolved for us all

Any discrepancies like this must be reported to our Support Team.

109 replies

MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
November 17, 2023

Hi Jessica

Jeez - you really couldnt make this up could you

I contacted Ovo and said this would become a formal complain on 09.11.23 (three months after SSE migration). I was then requested not to do this as their investigation involved a specialist team. Having read your post, I get the distinct impression Ive been fed nonsense, so come 09.12.23 I will escalate without further notice.

The crux of my complaint will be:

(i) Inverted tariffs like you sufferred from migration to around 10.10.23

(ii) Since then being charged E10 rates but having E7 timing changes

(iii) Most importantly, I havent had a single sodding bill that is on the same planet as being correct. According to Ovo, my last three bills have been £17, £24 and £Nil. Thankfully Im not stupid enough to believe these are correct but is it too much to expect to get an accurate verifiable monthly bill?

Im not one for the compensation culture we live in, but there sure as hell better be a reasonable ‘goodwill gesture’ heading my way for having to deal with this nonsense

 

………...and breathe…...

 

 

 

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
November 20, 2023

Hey @MikeMilf,

 

So sorry to hear this, 

 

If you are unhappy with the timeframes then the option to escalate your complaint might be best in this scenario. This kind of issue would need to be dealt with by a specialist team, so it sounds like it’s been raised internally and in the process of being resolved, but it sounds like you’re concerned with the time this is taking to resolve. 

 

You can find the full complaint procedure on the website. 

 

Really hope this gets sorted for you as soon as possible. 

Renewable Energy? Big Fan.
Newcomer
November 21, 2023

@MikeMilf The verdict is in.  After allowing Ovo to submit their evidence, the Ombudsman has delivered a verdict (took a grand total of 1 working day for them to decide this, its that clear cut).

Complaint upheld on both counts - The meters are being billed incorrectly - we know this but Ovo’s representatives still tried to convince the ombudsman that they’d fixed the problem and I’m complaining about nothing. (I had the same from my ova complaint handler from the specialist team who actually accused me of lying and not being able to read my electricity meter and bill!  I do hope someone listens back to that call as part of an internal de-brief on this!)

Second complaint about shocking customer service and deliberate inaction to resolve the issue also upheld.

Ombudsmans required resolution:  28 days to resolve the issue or face further action and a higher bill credit than I had originally been offered.  The clock starts on those 28 days as of tomorrow, place your bets whether Ovo will actually meet the deadline or whether this will fester on even further.

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
November 22, 2023

Hi Jessica

Jeez - you really couldnt make this up could you

I contacted Ovo and said this would become a formal complain on 09.11.23 (three months after SSE migration). I was then requested not to do this as their investigation involved a specialist team. Having read your post, I get the distinct impression Ive been fed nonsense, so come 09.12.23 I will escalate without further notice.

The crux of my complaint will be:

(i) Inverted tariffs like you sufferred from migration to around 10.10.23

(ii) Since then being charged E10 rates but having E7 timing changes

(iii) Most importantly, I havent had a single sodding bill that is on the same planet as being correct. According to Ovo, my last three bills have been £17, £24 and £Nil. Thankfully Im not stupid enough to believe these are correct but is it too much to expect to get an accurate verifiable monthly bill?

Im not one for the compensation culture we live in, but there sure as hell better be a reasonable ‘goodwill gesture’ heading my way for having to deal with this nonsense

 

………...and breathe…...

 

 

 

OVO are currently the worst supplier in the country pro rata for the number of complaints escalated to the Energy Ombudsman and Citizens Advice.

So I am not completely surprised at the time it is taking.

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
November 22, 2023

I’m sorry to hear of the experience you’ve had @JessicaRose, I’m glad that the Ombudsman are taking action.

 

Hope this gets sorted as soon as possible for you.

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MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
November 24, 2023

Well im speechless lol

Rather than ignore the matter I have sent two emails to Ovo suggesting that my billing is totally incorrect. Short of laying it out to them in Janet and John fashion, theres no more Im prepared to do

Ive had two replies, the latest just now saying they have carefully reviewed the account, the credit balance is correct, and the billing issue has been resolved.

Either Im being emailed by AI simpletons, incompetent humans, or Im being straight out lied to!

Id love to claim the credit balance and have it sit in my bank account whilst waiting for them to realise the clanger they have dropped. However as I refuse to give these clowns a DD authority, I fall foul of their “No DD, No Rebates policy” which surely shouldnt be allowed?

Im off to the off licence now to get some booze and raise a glass to Ovo Energy! lol

 

 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
November 28, 2023

Re-reading through this fascinating saga to see if there’s anything that might be helpful to another customer in similar circumstances. I stopped short here:

  

 

“‘… We have reads confirming that R1 is the off-peak reading and R2 is the peak:

‘R2 advanced during the peak hours, therefore it is the peak rate. Please register R1 as off-peak with TPR 374 and R2 as peak with TPR 375' Don't think it could be much more clear”

 

 

… or indeed more wrong, IMO.

TPR 374 is an offpeak E10 time pattern, matched by TPR 375 for peak timings:

SSC TPR Timings Name
 0935 00374 All days 0000-0500, 1300-1600, 2000-2200 Off Peak
0935 00375 All days 0500-1300, 1600-2000, 2200-2400 Peak

 

It rather sounds as if this is exactly the current (at the time) configuration of your meter. R1 was recording offpeak usage, R2 peak usage. So the metering team was quite justified in taking no action 🤷🏻

The problem is, as far as I’m aware, that DCC won’t have it. The first register (here R1, I’m guessing Tier 1, too) must record peak usage, so by extension R2 is for offpeak usage. 

I was in a similar situation and managed (with a little help) to persuade OVO’s metering people to swap the TPRs over, after which R1 is recording peak usage, R2 offpeak and all is rosy.

There might of course be other considerations that we’re not aware of, but I would have thought it worthwhile at least trying to swap the registers - the result could hardly be any worse than the current situation.

 

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MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
November 28, 2023

So in the absence of me having a science degree from NASA in order to understand all this stuff, I am stuck with my meters changing times according to an E7 clock (when it should be E10). As well as this I am stuck with hopelessly incorrect billing despite three separate people from Ovo saying they have “carefully investigated my account and all is absolutely correct”.

This is quite definitely the worst customer service I have received from any company ever. It is definitely the sort of ineptitude the ombudsman should be made aware of, but I am losing the will to live here. Perhaps the consumer money pages of a sunday broadsheet might be interested??

 

Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Forum Legend
November 29, 2023

Sorry to hear this, @MikeMilf. It’s really tricky for us to comment with anything of value here if your verdict is that the advisor you’re speaking to is wrong.

 

You’re able to request that this complaint is escalated within OVO, and if a resolution can’t be reached the Energy Ombudsmen can mediate between the Complaints team and yourself till a resolution is agreed. 

 

I hope we can get things sorted out with minimal further effort from you.

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MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
November 29, 2023

Im an accountant so am used to dealing with figures day in day out.

Fact of the matter is, if any member of Ovo staff had genuinely investigated my account, they would have seen the issue in about 5 seconds flat. Anyone who cant see that I havent been been billed for any usage for nearly four months shouldnt be working in a billing team. For that reason alone I feel I have been lied to.

Maybe I should keep quiet and just let a huge bill build up? I bet the minute they realise their error, they will want their money immediately. Thankfully I have the financial discipline to set money aside away from Ovo, but any poor sod who takes Ovo emails at face value would be royally screwed.