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Switched from E7 to single rate, support can't help with adjusting the ALCS timing

  • July 25, 2025
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Hi, everyone

Recently, I switched to a single-rate tariff. But the heater circuit only goes live during off-peak periods (because I was on Economy 7 tariff before). So after read some replies on the internet, I had a two chats with OVO advisors via online chat and requested them to adjust the ALCS timing to make my heater circuit always live 24/7.

The 1st chat wasn’t helpful at all.

The 2nd reply I had : this isn't something our support team can carry out due to the functionality of the meter itself, with this being a dual rate and wired as such. The only alternative options would be to have this exchanged to a single rate meter at a cost. 

 

Can anyone confirm this can be done remotely by adjusting the ALCS timing? If so How do I get the right person to do it?

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

ref: https://forum.ovoenergy.com/smart-meters-136/how-can-i-get-my-economy-7-times-changed-so-my-underfloor-heating-comes-on-earlier-15585

https://www.reddit.com/r/OctopusEnergy/comments/1ddbpuo/switched_from_economy_7_to_agile_will_they_update/

Best answer by Emmanuelle_OVO

Updated on 08/12/25 by Ben_OVO

Hey ​@Johnson2025,

I’ve had a response from a metering expert:

Our metering engineers are not permitted to alter the wiring configuration of the customer's property as we cannot confirm that the customer's equipment that is currently connected to the off-peak circuit is suitable for a constant load. Some equipment such as storage heaters are not designed to be on 24/7, and doing so may lead to increased bills and potential damage.

In addition to this, altering the timing of the meter's ALCS connection to be permanently closed, would result in the Proteus EHC1 contactor being permanently engaged which would contravene the manufacturer's intended use.  

In a scenario where a customer requests a tariff change from multirate to single rate, OVO would replace the meter and install an isolation switch. The existing off-peak circuit would be left disconnected from the new single rate meter installation, leaving the customer's electrician responsible for reconnecting the previously off-peak circuit to the new permanently energised isolation switch if they deem it suitable.

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July 29, 2025

Hi ​@Johnson2025 / ​@Blastoise186.

 

I’ve heard back from a manager in our Complex Metering team and he has confirmed:

 

We are not allowed to change a restricted supply to an unrestricted supply and vice versa. The ALCS/load switching functionality on the meter is not something at we would set to 24/7. This would only even be set to Economy 7, Economy 10 timings etc.

To change a supply from restricted to unrestricted would require the intervention of a qualified electrician.

 

Hi, I have just received email from advisor with same replies:

 

“I got in touch with a metering specialist in regards to this and they have confirmed that we are not allowed to change a restricted supply to an unrestricted supply and vice versa. A meter exchange would also not resolve this matter.

It has been confirmed that you will need to get a private electrician out to complete this work.”

 

A few days ago I have asked one electrician who did EICR for me, he said I will need to contact my energy provider to ask them to disconnect it as it’s their equipment.

 

And now OVO has asked me to get a private electrician? I will need to forward this to my electrician to find out.

Firedog
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July 29, 2025

This is very strange. A complex metering expert says that OVO are not allowed to change a restricted supply to an unrestricted one, yet a private electrician is. The supplier - who owns the metering equipment - needs permission from somebody to make a change that an ordinary electrician can do at the customer’s request? 

I could understand if the distributor had to be involved in a change like this, which would result in increased power draw during peak hours. Would the electrician have to have DNO permission to alter the wiring? If so, why did the expert not mention this? If not, whose permission other than the customer’s is needed?

We are not being told the whole story here. To my untrained eye, all that is preventing bypassing the Proteus contactor is a couple of SSE sticky labels, applied in lieu of tamper seals. I suppose it’s possible that a meter engineer doesn’t have permission to disable that switch, even though it was a meter engineer who installed it in the first place.

Perhaps the expert could expand on this curious situation.  

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Emmanuelle_OVO
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July 30, 2025

I’ll ask again internally & see if we can get some clarity on this ​@Firedog ​@Johnson2025.

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July 30, 2025

AFAIK the reason that we aren't able to change a restricted supply to an unrestricted supply is due to the fact that any connected equipment may not be capable of safely running 24/7, this is why you would need an electrician to make the changes for you 

Firedog
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July 31, 2025

  

… any connected equipment may not be capable of safely running 24/7…
 

While this may well be true, it sounds really unlikely to me. Circuits are restricted precisely because they serve heavy loads, often of the order of 20kW, so using them only during offpeak hours eases what might otherwise be an intolerable burden on the distribution network. There is no question of loads like that running continuously in an ordinary domestic setting, unless it’s keeping the nation’s biggest cannabis crop warm.

 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Emmanuelle_OVO
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August 1, 2025

Updated on 08/12/25 by Ben_OVO

Hey ​@Johnson2025,

I’ve had a response from a metering expert:

Our metering engineers are not permitted to alter the wiring configuration of the customer's property as we cannot confirm that the customer's equipment that is currently connected to the off-peak circuit is suitable for a constant load. Some equipment such as storage heaters are not designed to be on 24/7, and doing so may lead to increased bills and potential damage.

In addition to this, altering the timing of the meter's ALCS connection to be permanently closed, would result in the Proteus EHC1 contactor being permanently engaged which would contravene the manufacturer's intended use.  

In a scenario where a customer requests a tariff change from multirate to single rate, OVO would replace the meter and install an isolation switch. The existing off-peak circuit would be left disconnected from the new single rate meter installation, leaving the customer's electrician responsible for reconnecting the previously off-peak circuit to the new permanently energised isolation switch if they deem it suitable.

Renewable Energy? Big Fan.