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Smart meter can't connect despite 6 different comms hubs, is there anything else I can do to get the meter to connect?

  • April 19, 2024
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Does anyone know if the long range radio coms in the north  of the UK will be phased out in favour of the new Vodafone 4G network and if so the likely time frame. My smart meter was installed in November 2022 and refuses to connect to the Arquiva network. The local transmitter is I believe at Winter Hill which can be seen from my property but there is no signal at my property. The meter has been power cycled several times and they have tried at least six different 420 coms units. I believe the only way forward is to install a 4G coms unit but I’m not sure if they will be made available for the north west?

Thanks 

 

Best answer by Blastoise186

Updated on 20/10/25 by Abby_OVO

 

Then this probably needs to be raised to DCC as a No-WAN case. Only your Supplier can do that.

 

Winter Hill Transmitting Station appears to be in Lancashire, possibly somewhere near Chorley if memory serves.

 

With that in mind, just because Winter Hill is your nearest Arqiva Transmitting Station, doesn’t mean it’s got DCC equipment installed there. Arqiva installs DCC stuff wherever DCC tells them to - and ONLY where DCC tells them to. If Winter Hill doesn’t have said equipment installed, it looks like there won’t be many nearby as that particular Station is extremely powerful.

 

Additionally, a failure in one meter on the HAN to communicate won’t block the other - they communicate with the Comms Hub completely independently of each other by design.

 

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Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 13, 2025

… in order to get the gas meter onto the local HAN …
  

What did n3rgy’s Homebrew say?

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MASSOAuthor
Rank 2
August 13, 2025

n3rgy’s says

Gas Proxy Function

  • Warning: Device configuration has not been completed [INSTALLED_NOT_COMMISSIONED] - OK if no Gas Meter is installed

Thanks this is more or less what I thought

Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 16, 2025

Sorry I missed this …

I can’t see that you’ve asked Support to have the gas meter commissioned on to the HAN. There’s not likely to be any communication problem between the GSME and the GPF. Have they tried? What was the result (other than ‘it didn’t work …’)? 

 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
MASSOAuthor
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August 16, 2025

Don't worry about it. long story short, electricity meter, coms hub and IHD replaced.

LAN established, electricity meter and IHD connected., installer left site. When asked about the gas meter connection he said all the relevant information had been passed to the DCC. I took him at his word and  assumed the gas usage would show on the IHD later, it didn’t obviously which prompted all the subsequent questions/correspondence.  

When I used the n3rgy utility from Homebrew the gas meter did not show up but two electricity meters did with the statement “If you see multiple devices of the same type, its likely that your energy supplier has got into a bit of a pickle when trying to install and configure your smart meter” It also contained the statement I previously advised as follows:-

“Gas Proxy Function

  • Warning: Device configuration has not been completed [INSTALLED_NOT_COMMISSIONED] - OK if no Gas Meter is installed”

 I have forwarded a copy of the n3rgy utility report to my supplier and asked them to arrange for the gas meter to be commissioned by the DCC at the earliest opportunity.

Thanks again to everyone

Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 17, 2025

I have forwarded a copy of the n3rgy utility report to my supplier and asked them to arrange for the gas meter to be commissioned by the DCC at the earliest opportunity.
  

Is your supplier not OVO? I’ve no idea how other suppliers operate, but OVO’s support staff are trained to handle basic tasks like commissioning an IHD or a GPF. If the agent concerned doesn’t know what to do, someone who does isn’t far away. In some cases this is best carried out during a phone call, because you might need to do something during the process. That’s why I asked what the result of asking support for help had been.

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
MASSOAuthor
Rank 2
August 17, 2025

Sorry. misunderstood, no my supplier is not OVO.

All the communication between the installer and the DCC whilst “commissioning” is done via a “chat” application on his mobile device. The installer is not allowed to communicate directly with the people at DCC head office, it is “frowned upon” if they do so.

Thanks again sorry if I’ve wasted anyone's time

Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 17, 2025

All the communication between the installer and the DCC whilst “commissioning” is done via a “chat” application on his mobile device.
 

I wonder which of us has misunderstood. The meter engineer carrying out the installation uses his app, so far as I’m aware, to connect to the appropriate people at the supplier’s HQ, not DCC. This is because some of the changes being made to your equipment need elevated permissions which installation engineers don’t have but suppliers do. DCC have nothing to do with the installation. Once it’s complete, DCC will acquire the details - the ones you can retrieve using the n3rgy Homebrew utility - so that they can route data to and from the right devices (each with its unique MAC address) with the appropriate permissions (certificates stored on the meter concerned). DCC are only there to ensure that only those with the right credentials can make changes to your installation and retrieve data from your meter. 

If the installation is incomplete, as in your case, it’s the supplier’s job to complete it. In most cases, this is done remotely - site visits aren’t necessary.

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Nukecad
Super User
Super User
August 17, 2025

Sorry. misunderstood, no my supplier is not OVO.

……...

Thanks again sorry if I’ve wasted anyone's time

Not at all, everyone is welcome here regardless of which supplier they get their energy from.

Some of the top helpers here are with other suppliers than OVO.

I said, Hey - Watts going on.
Chris_OVO
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Community Manager
August 18, 2025

Hey ​@MASSO,

 

As ​@Nukecad has rightfully said, everyone’s welcome on our forum regardless of your supplier. We’ll do our best to empower people to find the answers they need or to have the confidence to ask questions to find the answers they need. 


Please keep us updated on your progress, as it could help others in a similar position. 

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MASSOAuthor
Rank 2
August 18, 2025

Will do, my supplier has been made aware of the situation and hopefully will correct sooner rather than later.

Thanks again