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OVO Smart Meter fitted- Off-peak circuit always OFF?

  • November 29, 2023
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Hello,

I'm an ex-SSE customer that was migrated to OVO in June 2023.
I had a new smart meter fitted on the 16th of December 2022 by SSE and since then I had an issues with the Economy 7 tariff.

Initially, all appliances connected to the off-peak rate circuit (port 5) were always ON instead of turning on and off during rate changes.

After contacting SSE support and later on OVO support multiple times, on the 17th of July 2023, OVO sent an engineer that supposedly fixed our issue but instead it changed to the opposite way:
All appliances connected to the off-peak rate circuit (port 5) are now always OFF during both peak and off-peak hours.

Our heating system consists of storage heaters which are all connected to this off-peak circuit so we are now effectively without heating.

We contacted the OVO support multiple times about this issue with no luck.
They sent multiple emergency and non-emergency engineers and none of them was able to fix our issue beside worsening it on the 17th of July.

By going through other posts on this forum, I came to the conclusion that our problem is probably due to a misconfiguration of our smart meter that could be fixed remotely by OVO, specifically the ECAUL and ALCS config via SMETS commands.

I tried to mention this possible fix and those commands multiple times during phone calls and chats with support but they don't seem to understand what I'm talking about or flat out ignore it.

 

Both yesterday and today they sent an emergency engineer that as aforementioned were unable to do anything about it and told us to ask for an OVO engineer.
I tried this but the earliest would be the 29th of January which is ridiculous as we would be without heating for 2 more months during winter.

I’m not sure what to do at this point. I also raised formal complaint through the webchat but that seems not to do anything.

 

The smart meter that we got fitted.

 

Best answer by Emmanuelle_OVO

Updated on 03/04/25 by Ben_OVO:

Hey @insoctek,

 

Sorry for the issues you’re having, 

 

It might be worth speaking to the support team via webchat and sending them this topic. It is something we’ve seen on the Forum several times but might not be something agents are aware of.

 

They need to ask smart support team to send the ECAUL command to update the ALCS configuration.

 

Hope this helps. 

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Blastoise186
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November 27, 2024

That’s exactly how it works :)

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November 27, 2024

@Blastoise186 

Thank you. I spoke to a few people in our development who have SKU2+MESH, and MESH LED shows connection but they still have to read their meters manually and provide it to their provider. As there is no connection to outside world through DCC. 
 

There seems to be a higher spec SMETS2 SKU3 SIMCH.  But, I am not sure if it is available right now for our area.  

Blastoise186
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November 27, 2024

SKU3 is only available on special request to DCC - and DCC really doesn’t like giving those out. All else must fail first before they’ll even consider it.

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November 27, 2024

Noted. I don’t mind to be a guinea pig and try all the various options as long as we do it in the warmer climate.

Emmanuelle_OVO
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November 27, 2024

I’ve responded to your private message ​@Siberia 🙂

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December 4, 2024

Hello everyone.

 

About a couple of months ago OVO installed a new smart meter outside my flat.

I am on a multi-rate tariff as I have 2 storage heaters and a boiler running on economy 7.

Since I have a new smart meter I called British Gas for a quote which was given over the phone. But they then automatically transferred my account onto their supply! On top of that they changed me from a multi-rate to a single standard rate! And then my storage heaters stopped working too.

After speaking with OVO about this - they said they could change me back onto their supply. So I asked to be changed to a credit meter (not prepayment) with a direct debit because it was cheaper.

My problem is my storage heaters are still not working.

About a month ago OVO advised an engineer was needed to check the meter. A fortnight later the engineer advised my tariff would be changed remotely by OVO and not him. All he could do was confirm I had an OVO installed smart meter.

OVO customer service passed me to ‘Squad 70’ department to deal with this. One OVO agent was able to change my smart meter from single rate to multi-rate. But for the past 2 weeks my storage heaters still aren’t working. The agent advised the smart meter may be defective or he can send another signal to the meter. But after 4 days of him calling me with updates - he is now no longer calling.

Does anyone know what could be the problem?

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meter-rate-1
meter-rate-2
fusebox-switches-are-on-(RH)

 

Blastoise186
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December 4, 2024

Hi ​@brian563 ,

Bear with me and I’ll ask ​@Abby_OVO to swing by. She’s been able to get some of these solved recently and I think it’s just a case of getting ECAUL done to reconfigure the ALCS Calendar. But it may depend on how badly British Gas messed things up...

Hang in there for a bit and I’ll ask the question.

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Nukecad
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December 4, 2024

It's difficult to see in the 2nd photo because of the flash reflection, but looking at the first and 3rd photos the same “switch” (II) is showing as being open on both rates. With  (I) always being closed.

Shouldn't that be changing if the storage heaters are on a different circuit?

 

I said, Hey - Watts going on.
Emmanuelle_OVO
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December 5, 2024

I think you’ll need to speak to squad 70 again & potentially ask the team to send the ECAUL command to update the ALCS configuration. We’ve seen similar topics on the forum ​@brian563 & this is usually the issue. 

 

It's difficult to see in the 2nd photo because of the flash reflection, but looking at the first and 3rd photos the same “switch” (II) is showing as being open on both rates. With  (I) always being closed.

Shouldn't that be changing if the storage heaters are on a different circuit?

 


But it might also be this? I’m afraid I’m not a metering expert. ​@Lukepeniket_OVO might have some advice?

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Blastoise186
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December 5, 2024

I’ve checked the manual for the Aclara meters - the II indicator will show as closed when that circuit is energised by the meter and open when it’s not.

Same for the I indicator, except that it will always show as closed when in Credit Mode (as it should!).

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