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October 3, 2023

We tried everything to reduce our usage but still didn't meet the Power Move target, any hints and tips?

  • October 3, 2023
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I did ask this question of OVO but never saw an answer.

My wife and I thought about our energy usage a great deal, we took all the steps to save within the period 4-7pm. To be fair, we went over the top and switched almost every thing off, all that was running was the fridge x2 and the TV.  It was a bit cold but we wrapped up as the heating was even turned off. It was a fruitless exercise. We never got below 18% of the daily target. I wasn’t going to use more energy in the rest of the day just to hit a target for what was quite a small recompense. I have signed up this time just in case by a miracle we hit the minutely sized increase in the %. We will just continue to be aware of our usage and our environmental obligations to try. I am sorry to sound so cynical but did see it as one big marketing exercise. Interested to see how others get on. We are a 4 bed household, 2 adults. Our average monthly bill is £80, the house was empty for a whole month and the bill was still £44. So you can see how this is almost impossible to achieve.

Pinned Reply By waltyboy

Yes, it’s really disheartening if you try hard and can’t quite make that crucial 4-7 segment count. I did do it in September and am looking forward to the October challenge! There’ve been some great suggestions on this forum re the precise measures people take.

 

My wife and I have rather an old PV system (10 years) but it’s still going strong, but it’s not big (nominally 3.2, but more like 2.6 kW): here in Sunderland we’re lucky at this time of year to generate a total of 4 or 5 kWh daily, maybe 700 Watts an hour if it’s really sunny, and that daily total will decrease to around 1 to 2 in December/January. But even so we’re really rigorous about trying to use heavy stuff during daylight hours; we’re both pensioners, so it’s easier for us than most folk, I know.

 

What I did do was get a small (24volt 100AH) LiFePo4 battery a year or so ago, and, boy, what a difference that makes! Yes it’s expensive to buy, but by charging the battery with a relatively simple variable amp charger (it can be manually set at anything up to 11 Amps) during daylight, even if the grid has to provide any shortfall, I run the house completely off the battery, between 1600 and 0800 hrs. In the summer it’s a much shorter night, only working between 2200 and 0500. That’s one small chest freezer, a medium ‘fridge/freezer combination, and all the other usual modern paraphernalia that are always on. To anybody who’s got solar panels, I would heartily recommend a battery…obviously not just for the relatively insignificant (for many people, certainly when contemplating a capital outlay of hundreds of pounds) financial returns of this particular incentive, but over the years you will notice the difference. And in fine weather we’re exporting a lot of our surplus rooftop generation anyway, which always annoyed me!

 

In our relatively small mid-terrace, for two oldies like us our average daily (24hr) electricity usage is very low, only around 3kWh, with average daily purchase from the grid of 0.15 kW in summer rising to  1.5 kW per 24 hours in mid-winter, so for us it’s doable with the battery to use very little grid at night. But we each have iPads, the house has 5 interlinked mains alarms, the usual boiler and room stats and router all the background stuff and lighting (LED) etc, but we rarely use our electric oven or air fryer or microwave or dishwasher or washing machine (never for those last two items!) or our electric chainsaw, (and we never use a tumble dryer, and can’t afford changing to an EV just yet) or outside bright sunny weather.  We’ve been able to afford this small battery only in the last year or so, but for anybody who can find the pennies (or who actually has a battery now and can time it to run the house between 4-7) it’s worth asking the advice of a specialist installer or doing a bit of research yourself.

 

For small users like me this OVO incentive is a real boon, and I’m grateful for it: never thought I’d see the day when I admitted being grateful to an energy company!! But I am, actually, as it’s the first time ever that we have ever had a little bit of control and a concrete financial incentive for attempting to shift usage out of peak hours. 
 

good luck this month everyone!…

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Newcomer
January 2, 2025

 

I think some people don’t really understand it; you need to use as normal outside the move hours. The person using only £80 a month is very low usage anyway so will find it harder to meet. Going  away on holiday won’t really help as it’s on your whole usage. We were late into it, got a medium reward Sep-Oct then the full £12 Nov and Dec. I reduce my lighting, have the PC on, don’t use any of the big four appliances. We now find it easier to wash on a Saturday. We cook our lunch before 4pm and boil the kettle at 3.55 then wrap it up well. We reboil it later. We put the gas heating on 3.30-4pm and use an electric heater or the hob for a quick burst if necessary. Now it’s Jan I am not going for the max reward, hoping to get £5 back as, well it’s Jan, and I will need to put the heating on. Your lights not really relevant. Oh and I now have a gas hob kettle as boiler never gets hot water to kitchen tap so I used a spare electric kettle for ‘grey’ water. 

Rank 4
January 3, 2025

Having used ​@Nukecad's tips above (thanks again) we just missed the top target and got to 8.13% average peak use in December so £6 off the next bill - yay us! 😂

Emmanuelle_OVO
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January 3, 2025

Brilliant news ​@Belinda5! Well done 😊

Renewable Energy? Big Fan.
Peter E
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Super User
January 3, 2025

As a personal note it's great to see people who are low users succeeding at Power Move because it does show that if you follow the great advice from people like ​@Nukecad and others that it can be done with the right equipment and a bit of thought and planning. I'm going to call out to ​@Emmanuelle_OVO to ask if we can get a User Guide to Succeeding at Power Move (snappier titles are available) done for the remainder of the winter power move so that we can all point to the best practice whenever we see customers struggling with this.

 

Peter

 

Reducing my yearly fossil fuel usage with an EV (-900 litres petrol saving about £950/year), A2AHP (-8,700 kWh gas, cost neutral) and Timed Immersion heater (-1,500 kWh gas, £20/year more expensive but reducing as the gas price goes up)
Firedog
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January 4, 2025

Happy New Year, ​@Peter E  🍾
  

As a personal note it's great to see people who are low users succeeding at Power Move …
  

I’m only 5’2” - does that make me a low user?

Low, medium and high will always be subjective assessments when thinking about energy consumption. Ofgem has its ‘typical’ usage levels, ranging from ~5 to ~18 kWh of electricity per day (1800 - 6700 kWh/year), which makes me at 2.9 kWh/day in 2024 an utter midget. I still manage to make the PM grade, even though I don’t get rewarded for doing it:
  

Sorry if this is a bit confusing.

  • Grey shading demarcates the current month.
  • Blue shading shows weekends etc. I suppose bank holidays (25 and 26/12) should be marked specially, since they’re now treated differently from weekend days. I’ll try harder.
  • The red and black lines show cumulative figures as time goes by. The white balls are trying very hard to stay below the thin black line, and succeeding. 
  • The grey and green lines show percentages, what we’re all aiming for. The green line just has to be below the grey ceiling at the end of the month.  

Yes, I should get out more ☺️

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Peter E
Super User
Super User
January 4, 2025

Happy New Year to you as well.

 

We could have fun with the definition of low.

 

I would call the use of the word Low to mean less than the average although I haven't explicitly said that I'm using the word Low as a shorthand way of saying ‘lower than average’. Similarly High would mean higher than average. No one has a medium consumption because you would have to define two subjective boundaries either side of the average to define the medium category.

 

The graphs are excellent and similar to mine when I was doing PM and it does provide day by day guidance on where you are so you know if you have to tighten up your consumption or if you can relax it a bit. My graph had three horizontal lines corresponding to the different target levels.

 

It's too cold to go outside anyway. I've just seen a brass monkey looking for a welder.

 

 

Reducing my yearly fossil fuel usage with an EV (-900 litres petrol saving about £950/year), A2AHP (-8,700 kWh gas, cost neutral) and Timed Immersion heater (-1,500 kWh gas, £20/year more expensive but reducing as the gas price goes up)
Firedog
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Super User
January 4, 2025

  

We could have fun with the definition of low … I would call the use of the word Low to mean less than the average …
 

Funny you should say that. Ofgem shied away from using averages, because they are too susceptible to distortion by a few outliers. It wouldn’t give a true picture of what we understand by ‘average’ usage if it included, say, a few rarely-occupied holiday homes in Cornwall or shooting lodges in Scotland, or at the other end of the scale the odd cannabis farm that hadn’t yet been discovered. I think they discard some percentile of data at each end of the scale, then take the median of the rest to find a ‘typical’ usage level. However, I wouldn’t accept that a consumer in the 49th percentile was a ‘low user’, nor one in the 51st a ‘high user’. They’re both pretty middle-of-the-road. I’m sure the data are available somewhere …
    

It's too cold to go outside anyway. I've just seen a brass monkey looking for a welder.
 

~~~ 🤣 ~~~

 

 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Firedog
Super User
Super User
January 4, 2025

I’m sure the data are available somewhere …
  

For example, Subnational electricity and gas consumption summary report 2023:
  

Chart 7 shows the distribution of domestic electricity consumption at the level of individual meters in 2023. While most (68 per cent) domestic electricity meters consumed between 750 and 4,000 kWh, 3 per cent consumed over 10,000 kWh. As a result of these few high consuming meters the mean domestic electricity consumption of 3,301 kWh is substantially higher than the median domestic electricity consumption (the value which half of meters are above, and half are below) of 2,533 kWh.

 

Very OT: charts like this always remind me of the church in whose choir I had the privilege of singing, and in which one of my marriages took place sometime last century:
  

 

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Blastoise186
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January 4, 2025

It looks like that church is suggesting we aim for the middle of the charts! :P

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Peter E
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Super User
January 4, 2025

Chart 7 is a Poisson Distribution. Something fishy going on there

Reducing my yearly fossil fuel usage with an EV (-900 litres petrol saving about £950/year), A2AHP (-8,700 kWh gas, cost neutral) and Timed Immersion heater (-1,500 kWh gas, £20/year more expensive but reducing as the gas price goes up)