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October 3, 2023

We tried everything to reduce our usage but still didn't meet the Power Move target, any hints and tips?

  • October 3, 2023
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I did ask this question of OVO but never saw an answer.

My wife and I thought about our energy usage a great deal, we took all the steps to save within the period 4-7pm. To be fair, we went over the top and switched almost every thing off, all that was running was the fridge x2 and the TV.  It was a bit cold but we wrapped up as the heating was even turned off. It was a fruitless exercise. We never got below 18% of the daily target. I wasn’t going to use more energy in the rest of the day just to hit a target for what was quite a small recompense. I have signed up this time just in case by a miracle we hit the minutely sized increase in the %. We will just continue to be aware of our usage and our environmental obligations to try. I am sorry to sound so cynical but did see it as one big marketing exercise. Interested to see how others get on. We are a 4 bed household, 2 adults. Our average monthly bill is £80, the house was empty for a whole month and the bill was still £44. So you can see how this is almost impossible to achieve.

Pinned Reply By waltyboy

Yes, it’s really disheartening if you try hard and can’t quite make that crucial 4-7 segment count. I did do it in September and am looking forward to the October challenge! There’ve been some great suggestions on this forum re the precise measures people take.

 

My wife and I have rather an old PV system (10 years) but it’s still going strong, but it’s not big (nominally 3.2, but more like 2.6 kW): here in Sunderland we’re lucky at this time of year to generate a total of 4 or 5 kWh daily, maybe 700 Watts an hour if it’s really sunny, and that daily total will decrease to around 1 to 2 in December/January. But even so we’re really rigorous about trying to use heavy stuff during daylight hours; we’re both pensioners, so it’s easier for us than most folk, I know.

 

What I did do was get a small (24volt 100AH) LiFePo4 battery a year or so ago, and, boy, what a difference that makes! Yes it’s expensive to buy, but by charging the battery with a relatively simple variable amp charger (it can be manually set at anything up to 11 Amps) during daylight, even if the grid has to provide any shortfall, I run the house completely off the battery, between 1600 and 0800 hrs. In the summer it’s a much shorter night, only working between 2200 and 0500. That’s one small chest freezer, a medium ‘fridge/freezer combination, and all the other usual modern paraphernalia that are always on. To anybody who’s got solar panels, I would heartily recommend a battery…obviously not just for the relatively insignificant (for many people, certainly when contemplating a capital outlay of hundreds of pounds) financial returns of this particular incentive, but over the years you will notice the difference. And in fine weather we’re exporting a lot of our surplus rooftop generation anyway, which always annoyed me!

 

In our relatively small mid-terrace, for two oldies like us our average daily (24hr) electricity usage is very low, only around 3kWh, with average daily purchase from the grid of 0.15 kW in summer rising to  1.5 kW per 24 hours in mid-winter, so for us it’s doable with the battery to use very little grid at night. But we each have iPads, the house has 5 interlinked mains alarms, the usual boiler and room stats and router all the background stuff and lighting (LED) etc, but we rarely use our electric oven or air fryer or microwave or dishwasher or washing machine (never for those last two items!) or our electric chainsaw, (and we never use a tumble dryer, and can’t afford changing to an EV just yet) or outside bright sunny weather.  We’ve been able to afford this small battery only in the last year or so, but for anybody who can find the pennies (or who actually has a battery now and can time it to run the house between 4-7) it’s worth asking the advice of a specialist installer or doing a bit of research yourself.

 

For small users like me this OVO incentive is a real boon, and I’m grateful for it: never thought I’d see the day when I admitted being grateful to an energy company!! But I am, actually, as it’s the first time ever that we have ever had a little bit of control and a concrete financial incentive for attempting to shift usage out of peak hours. 
 

good luck this month everyone!…

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Rank 9
October 24, 2024

It doesn’t seem very easy to join the group.  All you get is a response saying ”Your join request has been sent, please wait”.  

Blastoise186
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October 24, 2024

I’ll poke @Chris_OVO and @Emmanuelle_OVO . They can press the button out the back to finish the process.

The group is private to prevent unwanted guests from sneaking in. As you’re on PMF, you’ll be granted access once they check the queue.

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Chris_OVO
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October 25, 2024

Morning @DuncanL

 

I jumped on the group this morning and accepted your request so you should have access to the group now. Apologies for the delay and thanks to @Blastoise186 for the tag! 

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Rank 9
October 25, 2024

Thanks for your help - and Blastoise186. 

Rank 4
November 3, 2024

Our first month of trying to reach the power move target and got it to 14.21% so didn't earn any credit for October. We didn't use the dishwasher, washing machine or charged up anything between 4 and 7 but I did use the oven and hob. We are both retired and we usually eat between 5 and 6. Any tips for using the oven and hob less without moving our meal time?

Nukecad
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November 4, 2024

Hi @Belinda5 

I’ve been doing PM for over a year now and have plenty of cooking tips.

Moving electric cooker use out of the PM hours is the best way to meet the PM targets.
I quickly realised that and have had the maximum PM reward every month.

If you can do that too then you should easilly meet the PM targets.

If you want to eat during the peak hours then use the microwave, a slow cooker, or an Air Fryer instead of the electric oven/hob, they use much less energy to cook the food.

PS. Try to avoid using the electric kettle during peak hours too, many of us fill a thermos flask just before the peak hours and use that to make hot drinks during peak. (See more about using Thermos flasks below*).

I tend to cook things outside of the PM peak hours and then reheat in the microwave if I want to eat during the peak hours.

For example yesterday afternoon I batch cooked a big pan of stewed beef with tomato and onion, once it had cooled its was portioned into plastic’take away type’ trays and frozen for later use.
I also batch cook and freeze stews, casseroles, soups, curries, pasta sauces, etc. for later use.
Remember to take out early and defrost at room temperature (to save energy defrosting) and then just a couple of minutes in the microwave to reheat.

You can also freeze cooked mashed potato and cooked veg like that.
You could even freeze them together in one tray/container to make you own ‘microwave ready meals’. You can even buy freezer trays with partitions for doing just that.

Using instant mash (use water from a thermos rather than boiling the kettle) and microwaving tinned veg is also energy efficent, as are oven chips done in an air fryer (not in the oven).

A bit more adventeurous?
*I also use a Thermos Flask for cooking, it’s a great energy saver.
It’s a method often used by hikers and cyclists, they can be cooking their meal in their backpack while travelling along, you can use it in the kitchen too while you are doing something else.
Anything that you normally boil you can cook in a thermos, as long as it fits.
It’s particularly good for cooking rice and pasta, I find that it’s the best way to cook rice just right.

Again, you can cook things in a thermos early before the peak hours and when done empty them out to cool, then qucikly reheat in the microwave later when you want to eat.

Here are my tips on Thermos cooking, I even posted a recipie for Mini Meatballs and spagetti which I make quite often.

 

 

I said, Hey - Watts going on.
Rank 9
November 4, 2024

It’s all a personal decision over what lengths you wish to go to in order to earn the returns.  If you are retired, it might for some also be a question of which is more important to you - your health or your wealth.

Blastoise186
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November 4, 2024

It’s all a personal decision over what lengths you wish to go to in order to earn the returns.  If you are retired, it might for some also be a question of which is more important to you - your health or your wealth.

Let me make this clear once again. POWER MOVE IS NOT intended to be about cutting down your usage, and absolutely not about nuking essential usage.

It's about moving it around. Please read the docs again for more details.

DO NOT put your health at risk just for free credits. 

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Rank 4
November 4, 2024

Nukecad, thank you so much, your reply is very helpful. I'm probably going to sound weird, I don't have a microwave! We recently had a new kitchen and I cleared as much of the worktops as I could, gave my microwave to my daughter 🙄. I don't have an air fryer either, I have a Tower halogen oven that ive not used yet, that's got to be a lot cheaper than the range. I'm going to use your tips for a thermos during peak and batch cook off peak or use my slow cooker. All sound advice so thank you again.

 

DuncanL, thanks for replying, I'm not turning things off, so we aren't going hungry or getting cold. Thank you for your concern.

 

Blastoise186, thank you for commenting. That's exactly what we are trying to do, we aren't going without anything, we are just moving what we can out of peak. You won't find me cuddling a hot water bottle in the dark with no TV 😉. It's nice to know people care so thank you.

Nukecad
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November 4, 2024

@Belinda5

I would look again at getting an air fryer if you can.

Don't think of it as a ‘fryer’ because it isn't, it's a small fan oven where the heat comes from a grill type element at the top (on most of them anyway). So for burgers, sausages, steaks, chops, it's more like a quick fan assisted grill.

Being small it heats up just as much space as you need rather that having to heat up a big oven for a small portion of food.

I do still use my big oven, for cooking larger things like full size loaves, tray bake cakes, etc. (But I'll also bake 4 medium size bread rolls, individual pies, biscuits, etc in the air fryer. Which I use depends on what I'm cooking.

For example, if you like chips then frozen oven chips will take 20 mins in the big oven, and that is after you have had it on for 20 mins to heat up.

But in an air fryer you can just throw them in and cook them in 10/15 mins overall.

I said, Hey - Watts going on.