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Why does OVO use Direct Debits rather than standing orders?

  • April 4, 2022
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Seems to me OVO do not understand the concept of a Standing Order and a DD.

Ovo let me educate you.

 

DD = variable amounts, can be taken at any time although normally scheduled

Standing Order = fixed amount , taken on a scheduled date

 

So when you ask your customers to set up a DD then state we are changing the amount you pay every month , you are showing your ignorance of the banking system.

hence I cancelled my DD and will pay weekly as I do now. Should you amend your understanding of the banking system, I will consider resetting up my DD or Standing order, or would you like me to explain the concept again?

 

who else thinks OVO don’t know the difference?

Best answer by M.isterW

Updated on 10/06/25 by Abby_OVO

 

What they're doing is in line with what energy companies have been doing for decades. Your energy use isn't constant throughout the year so to avoid you paying large amounts in the winter they charge you an average monthly amount to spread the cost evenly throughout the year. I'm astonished that you've only just noticed that they do this because I've been paying for my energy in this way for many, many years.

 

They use direct debits, rather than standing orders, because it allows them to manage the collection better and also change the amount without having to set up a new standing order. It is absolutely correct to use a direct debit in this way and I'm amazed that you don't know this if you claim to have worked in banking.

 

How does OVO work out my monthly Direct Debit?

 

The aim is to make sure you have credit for 1 month’s payment in your OVO account by the end of March. This is to help cover any change in your home energy use over the course of the year. 

 

For new customers, this only comes into effect once you’ve reached March. When you first join, the aim is to make sure you have no balance left to pay after 1 year.

 

Your Direct Debit payment amount will be regularly reviewed to make sure it still covers your home’s energy use.

 

You can find out more on how we calculate your Direct Debit below:

 

17 replies

Newcomer
November 7, 2024

It is also worth noting that by cancelling the DD, you are AUTOMATICALLY booted over to Pay On-Demand which requires that you pay the entire outstanding balance on time every month without fail.

 

Given that my monthly payments are always higher than the bill, switching to paying the bill in one go, wouldn’t bother me at all.

Indeed, I’d probably be a few quid better off, each month.

Firedog
Super User
Super User
November 7, 2024

  

Given that my monthly payments are always higher than the bill, …
  

If that’s the case, your Direct Debit is too high. However, if always means for the past six months, that’s to be expected. By paying the same amount each month over the year to cover the projected costs for the year, over the summer you’ll be paying more each month than you’re using - but come winter, you’ll be paying less.
  

… I’d probably be a few quid better off, each month.
    

That’s not likely, because the rates are significantly lower for those who pay by Direct Debit.

 

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Emmanuelle_OVO
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November 8, 2024

Hey @itsmehere 

 

Firedog has given a helpful response here:

 

  

Given that my monthly payments are always higher than the bill, …
  

If that’s the case, your Direct Debit is too high. However, if always means for the past six months, that’s to be expected. By paying the same amount each month over the year to cover the projected costs for the year, over the summer you’ll be paying more each month than you’re using - but come winter, you’ll be paying less.
  

… I’d probably be a few quid better off, each month.
    

That’s not likely, because the rates are significantly lower for those who pay by Direct Debit.

 

 

Just wanted to add the following topics:

 

 

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Newcomer
July 18, 2025

At the end of May I had a large solar array installed together with a 30kWh battery. My house is large and we have one ev and one rechargeable hybrid; so we used to consume just over 1000kWh per month, with a direct debit of nearly £300 per month. 
 

Our usage of energy from the grid has dropped dramatically, as we can use all the solar energy that we get including any amount that can be stored on any day in the battery. Over the past 8 weeks we have developed a surplus of more than £500 on our direct debit. 
 

My point is that a direct debit doesn’t suit this situation. Our current usage of energy from the grid is only 25% compared with the same period last year. However, it isn’t yet really possible to predict an accurate rate of usage for each season - even these first two months have enjoyed an exceptional amount of sun and they have included a holiday when the house was empty and obviously not using much energy. 
 

The solution offered by customer support is to change to a standing order. I have enough evidence to set an initial monthly amount low enough to cover actual costs at present and probably eliminate the credit on the account during the winter. In the new year (or earlier if necessary) the STO can be adjusted according to our experience of energy usage as the year progresses. 
 

The OVO website doesn’t really provide for this unknown situation in the first year of solar usage. I want to make regular fixed payments; so simply paying a monthly bill doesn’t work for me. A standing order, which I can adjust from time to time, is a better fit. 
 

Other customers installing solar are likely to face the same problem. Could the website not usefully reflect the sensible advice I was given to cover the unknown quantities involved in the first year of solar use, especially when such use is heavy?

 

 

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
July 18, 2025

Standing Orders are NOT supported.

If you try to use one, you’ll be booted off of any Fixed Rate Tariff and kicked over to Simpler Energy Pay on Demand - with around 10-12% higher rates. You will also be charged any Exit Fees that may apply to the tariff you were kicked from.

This would also require you to pay the entire bill in full every month, which a Standing Order can’t do.

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Newcomer
July 18, 2025

If this response had come from the company, it would feel somewhat aggressive. Nor is it in line with what the customer care adviser actually advised. 
 

I am already on Simpler Energy precisely because it has no exit fees. I have wanted to keep my option to leave OVO open. However, instead of a standing order, I have now decided to pay bills on a monthly basis, which will mean that, with over £600 credit, I will probably pay nothing at all for at least 3 months (very probably more than that). Thereafter, I will consider my options and may well decide to leave OVO after 15 or more years. 

 

My goal in writing this is to get someone senior from the company to consider the need of a customer in their first year of solar and battery usage for a more flexible approach to payment.  A standing order would keep some revenue flowing in for OVO, possibly resulting in even more credit building up until it was gradually used up in the winter months. This would create a more even revenue stream for the company and more predictable costs for the customer. After a year, both customer and company would have enough evidence to move back to a more accurate and sensibly reduced level of direct debit. 
 

The company would, it seems to me, be able to make clear that a standing order would be acceptable only in this circumstance of the first year of solar use and for no more than that single year. The refusal of your direct debit algorithm to consider a reasonable reduction will result in a higher debt owed by the company to the customer who allows it to continue. This is not in OVO’s interest and likely to alienate the customer. 
 

I would like to make clear that I am taking the time to write this only because your helpful and responsive customer care adviser asked me to! Without that careful response I would already be in the process of leaving OVO. 
 

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
July 18, 2025

Standing Orders cause a LOT of problems, such as having basically no customer protections, can’t be cancelled automatically when you leave, no easy refund mechanism, extra manual work to process…

They’re not scalable to a business the size of OVO.

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