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February 11, 2022
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Why do my online usage graphs show I was using energy during a power cut?

  • February 11, 2022
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I noticed that I was charged electricity during the 5 days outage as the smart meter sent the same data daily as the last day we had power, so I ended up paying almost £2 a day for a service I did not receive, SSE paid compensation for the inconvenience, and the girl I spoke to seemed to indicate that the compensation also included and payment we would have made for electricity not supplied  - this seems wrong and separate issues as this means folks with smart meters paid a daily rate for the electricity they did not receive and those without smart meters didn’t.

 

seems wrong - OVO must have received tens of thousands from lots of customers for a service not provided - I want to take this up with Ofgem and it is not a fair practice 

Best answer by Blastoise186

Updated on 18/09/23 by Abby_OVO

Hi @paulbrash .

Was this on OVO’s side or SSE’s side of things? Your post isn’t quite clear so I’ll have to assume it could be either one for now.

If you’re purely looking at the usage data, please bear in mind that this is only a guide and is not used for billing purposes - only the actual meter readings are taken into account. If your meter isn’t spinning at all on a particular day due to an outage, the only charges you’ll rack up (at most) would be the Daily Standing Charges, but the Usage Charges for that day should be zero. MyOVO will sometimes try to estimate usage for any day where it doesn’t have usage data available, but it will correct itself for the billing purposes once the next actual meter reading comes in - and this can automatically wipe out any overcharges caused by the estimates. This rule is the same regardless of what kind of meter you’ve got.

I should probably also mention that while OVO might have some of your cash in the bank, they cannot do anything with it until you’ve actually spent it and this only happens after a bill is generated. Any and all spare credit has to be ringfenced and the only thing OVO can do with it in the meantime is simply keep it safe and either withdraw what you’ve actually spent and throw that into the main accounts, or send it back to you if you ask for a refund. Otherwise it just sits there waiting for something to happen. This isn’t profit per se, because OVO cannot readily use it for any other purpose.

Of course, if the billing does get out of line due to an outage like this, OVO and SSE will indeed be happy to issue refunds if needed. But please bear in mind that the usage graphs alone for any supplier, your In-Home Display and any apps/web dashboards should not be relied upon for billing purposes. It’s all about the meter readings.

If you’re still unhappy, you cannot go to Ofgem about this as your complaint will bounce back. Please follow the complaints processes for OVO/SSE depending on which side you’re on and if you still can’t resolve it you’ll want to go to the Energy Ombudsman rather than Ofgem.

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Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Forum Legend
May 1, 2023

So it’s showing a time slot in the future, @ayoung1966? How many hours into the future? 

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Newcomer
May 1, 2023

The time of picture is at the top 18:22 

the gas was the same showing usage before time reached 

Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Forum Legend
May 2, 2023

The time of picture is at the top 18:22 

the gas was the same showing usage before time reached 

 

Ooooops thanks @ayoung1966 I should’ve spotted that!

 

If you’re certain that you’re looking at the current date when on that usage chart, and it’s providing half hourly slots of usage data into the future, I’ve never heard of this issue and it would be great to get this flagged to our Support team here. You can just copy a link to this topic to save you having to explain anything again.  

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May 2, 2023

Thats great thank you for your help 

Peter E
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Super User
October 17, 2023

I had a similar issue where we had a serious outage between 13:00 and 17:00 (ish) and the graph suggests that we could have been using electricity when we weren’t. It does seem that the graph is for illustration when there is an outage and when you hover on one particular HH period it does indicate the correct usage as zero.

 

BTW: When the power did come back the lights were dim and flickering quite noticeably all the time and there was only two of the three phases as some of my near neighbours in the same road had power and some were using candles / torches. My car also refused to charge as my Garo Open PEN unit refused to supply power suggesting that there was no protective Earth/Neutral back to the substation. I’ve never had a outage / partial restore quite like that before.

 

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