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The import readings on my Secure Liberty S1 meter don't match the energy purchased figure on my Solar PV and Home Energy Inverter - Which figure is correct?

  • October 12, 2021
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Updated on 14/12/23 by Emmanuelle_OVO: - Note that this discussion originated on our Secure Liberty 100 Smart Meter guide topic

 

Hi Tim,

 

Can you please confirm if the Historical data shown should match to the import readings?

 

For instance the historical data says I used 600kwh for September and the import readings say I used 800kwh.  Should these figures match?  If not, why not?

 

Thanks,

Joe

Best answer by Transparent

Thanks for clarifying this @Mbu1982 

I assume you are being billed for the 600kWh figure, rather than the 800kWh which is labelled as ‘Import’?

The Import and Export registers would normally be used for a site which is both generating and drawing electricity from the Grid as part of a renewable-energy system. A typical example would be a house with both PV Solar Panels and a Storage Battery.

Unless you are with a Supplier who uses those registers to monitor energy flow, I doubt that they have been configured. As such the readings are arbitrary.

Nevertheless I haven’t got 1st hand experience of the Secure Liberty meter, so I’m also going to tag @Blastoise186 and ask him to respond briefly.

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October 20, 2021

That looks like a quality installation @Mbu1982 

For the benefit of others who come to read this in future we should let the Moderators decide whether to move this discussion across to the topic about Photovoltaic Panels. That enables other members to find it.

The one item you haven’t provided a picture for is the Generation Meter. Do you know where that is?

I assume there must be one present because the red glow-stick(!) at bottom right of the Solis inverter is a radio-link to it :slight_smile:

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Mbu1982Author
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October 20, 2021

 

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Mbu1982Author
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October 20, 2021

I do believe this discussion has a link to both topics. I am querying this based on a discrepancy between my smart meter import reading, monthly consumption and my solar POV system

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October 20, 2021

Great. That’s the meter we’re looking for.

There should be lead from it which goes to a clamp on one of the two thick wires between your Smart meter and the Consumer unit with the trips in.

When you find the clamp you should be able to see an arrow (or two), either printed on or embossed into the plastic. We need to know if the arrow points towards or away from the Smart meter.

 

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Mbu1982Author
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October 21, 2021

Morning, I have found the clamp but it has no arrows on it….

 

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October 21, 2021
What about this arrow?

 

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Mbu1982Author
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October 21, 2021

🤣 Is that what you where looking for. Please explain all to me now? As you can see, I’m very confused!

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Jess_OVO
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October 21, 2021

Our eagle-eyed @Transparent can spot an arrow hidden in a wire anywhere!

 

I’d echo your confusion @Mbu1982 - but have been following your discussion closely and I think it’s time to award this it’s very own thread. Take a look at the topic title and tags I’ve added to see if you think they could use a tweak. Am hoping this thread will become a great resource to others with a similar set-up and queries in future too! :grinning:

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October 21, 2021

Hi @Jess_OVO No problem at all.  I do think there will be a lot of people wondering the same things I have been asking.  Thanks again

 

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October 21, 2021

If people didn’t get confused about energy issues @Mbu1982  then this Forum wouldn’t have much need to exist! :wink:

I’m still checking the absolute basics about how your electricity import/export figures are being created. Even if you confirm that something is correct on your installation, it’s still good that we discuss it here. In future someone else will make the same checks but in their case it could be faulty.

So if you look at the grey-covered cable ‘tail’ which has the current-clamp on it, there are two things to confirm:

a: Does the side of the clamp marked ‘house’ point towards your consumer unit, and the side marked ‘grid’ point towards your SMETS1 meter?

b: Is this the ‘Live’ wire rather than the ‘Neutral’? (Ask again if you don’t know how to check this, or post a relevant photo).

 

Secondly, you mentioned that your Energy Supplier is Avro.

Aren’t they one of the smaller companies who have recently ceased to trade?

Aren’t Avro customers being acquired by Octopus?

I mention this because:

1: the change of supplier means that a meter reading will be provided by you, and the usage-history checked by the new supplier. If there have been mistakes, then this sets a point in time when things might change.

2: Octopus have a highly competent Smart Meter team. It was their diligence which discovered why a proportion of brand-new SMETS2 meters always failed when first installed. In fact I had a failed one which OVO had fitted!

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