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Power Move Plus- Really low target? Unachievable?

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December 5, 2023
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This Power Move Plus is getting a joke now the first one I had to get under 0.5 than it was 0.3 now it's 0.2 i see a pattern emerging here next it will be 0.0 if I wasn't able to achieve it at 0.3 why do there think i can at 0.2. It's like it's been set up to fail.

OVO seems to be the only energy company that is going for low % most other companies have just asked customers to try to reduce there energy to lower than they would usually use for the time allocated.

Best answer by Nukecad

Had an email today saying I had missed my February Power Move target……for 22 of the 29 days of February the house was empty and the heating off🤷🏼

The clue is in the name.

Power MOVE is about MOVING your usage out of peak hours into off-peak hours.

It is NOT about reducing your overall usage.

If the house was empty then you reduced the overall useage - but you didn't, you couldn't, MOVE anything from peak to off-peak.

To put it in other words you have to have a peak usage to MOVE, if there is no (peak) usage then there is nothing to be moved.

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Jeffus

Rank 20

@Jeffus yes this would definitely help with low users as the targets are so low now I would think it's impossible to retch.

I will try tonight to get below 0.2kwh but I think it's going to be impossible.

@Lucky2

The minimum may not help in the extreme cases given you are already amazing if you can't realistically save anything more.

Some sort of reward for customers who take part and save even a little in every Demand Flexibility event this winter might have been interesting.

Anything has to be affordable as the money has to come from somewhere (although some savings should hopefully come from less peak time power).

In the future we may see very different tariff where the amount you pay per kWh in peak times depends on how much electricity you use during peak times. It is hard to predict the future... I doubt even that would help you. Even if the first 0.5kWh was half price in that peak period you would still only save a very small amount as you use so little.

British gas have Peak Save Sunday with half price electricity on a Sunday. You would have to work out whether Peak Save and Peak Save Sunday would work out bigger savings than Power Move and Power Move Plus. Also if you were happy with British Gas generally...

https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/peak-save/sunday.html

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Przemo

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This Power Move Plus is getting a joke now the first one I had to get under 0.5 than it was 0.3 now it's 0.2 i see a pattern emerging here next it will be 0.0 if I wasn't able to achieve it at 0.3 why do there think i can at 0.2. It's like it's been set up to fail.

OVO seems to be the only energy company that is going for low % most other companies have just asked customers to try to reduce there energy to lower than they would usually use for the time allocated.

My terget is 0.3 kW 🤣

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EverythingNeedsAUserName

Rank 7

My target is 0.1 kWh. It has been for each of the hour or so long power move events. I don't belive the system measures anything less.

3.99kW solar 2015, 12kWh batteries 2022, Tado.

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Lucky2Author

Rank 5

@EverythingNeedsAUserName can I ask have you been able to hit your target of 0.1 on any of the events?

Nukecad

Super User

Interesting looking at how some companies are compensating users with low energy savings in each session.

British Gas for example pay a minimum of £1 per event if you manage to save anything.

This would help some low users take part I assume.

What do other posters think about that as an idea? Would it make a difference for some of you struggling with Power Move Plus? Is a guaranteed £1 if you save anything enough? That would be at least £1 for 12 events and then at least £1 for any live events.

I think that’s a great idea from BG.

As you say it gives low energy users a (financial) motivation to join in each DFS event.

Even if each low user can only reduce their use during a DFS event by a tiny amount, all those tiny amounts will add up.

It isn’t particularly cost effective for BG to do that, (it probably even costs them money to do), but cost saving isn’t the point of these DFS (Power Move Plus) events.

I said, Hey - Watts going on.

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EverythingNeedsAUserName

Rank 7

@EverythingNeedsAUserName can I ask have you been able to hit your target of 0.1 on any of the events?

😂😂😂😂😂

3.99kW solar 2015, 12kWh batteries 2022, Tado.

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MGSteve

Rank 6

Personally, I don’t like fixed reimbursement schemes, like Power Move, and much prefer variable schemes, like Power Move Plus.

With Power Move, light to medium users, with limited moveable demands, like me, find it very difficult to achieve any reimbursement, and high users can easily achieve the payment, and then have no real incentive to save any more. But with Power Move Plus, everybody should be able to get some payment, however small, and have an incentive to save as much as possible.

Interesting, whereas Power Move Plus is based on the National Grid DFS system, and they (the grid) pay for it, so it costs OVO nothing, Power Move is just an Ovo scheme, which presumable is paid for by OVO not having to pay the grid for expensive electricity during the peak period.

Rgds,

Steve