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Bev
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Rank 4
September 28, 2021

Is a Home storage battery our 'missing link' (and do specialist advisors exist for this stuff?)

  • September 28, 2021
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Hello
We’ve had a 3.7kw solar pv set up on our roof for 8 years, we’re in East Sussex. We were lucky enough to come in on the tail end of the feed-in tariff, so it has almost paid for itself. We don’t have a Smart Meter so our export is assumed to be 50% for the tariff, we know we don’t export that much as we also run our business from this building so we’re always here. We’ve had a 100% Electric car for 4 years (Leaf), and this summer we had a Heat Pump installed as part of the OVO trial. We don’t yet know how our bills will look this winter without gas, we have a multi fuel burner as back-up. We didn’t have a water tank with our gas boiler so didn’t have an iBoost-type gizmo fitted, which means our excess solar does not currently heat our water. 

So…  battery storage. Our mission for this house is to future proof it so far as possible, and get the running costs down as low as we can.  Our local installers have had issues trying to get Tesla batteries, there seems to be a waiting list. They’re currently testing other storage batteries. 

Meanwhile our Leaf is a Tekna and we bought it with Vehicle to Grid/Home in mind, sort of thinking ‘have this instead of a battery pack’. But the impression we have at the moment is that isn’t possible yet as trials are still ongoing (if anyone has another experience I’d be delighted to hear it!)

I have been reading these forums for the past week, trying to get my head around whether storage is the missing bit of the puzzle for us.  If I’m honest, my brain is melting a bit. If we go to an installer and they say ‘you need this’, we won’t ever know what other options we had or whether we’re doing the right thing.  Plus we have the dilemma of potentially switching energy suppliers, knowing that getting a Smart Meter would probably reduce our FIT payments, but then again… some companies offer attractive rates with a Smart Meter, so it might be a better option for us. Would it be worth it for us to pay someone independent to look at our entire set-up and advise? We’re wondering would that be money well spent v spending a load on (say) a battery only to realise that wasn’t the solution we needed. Do such advisors exist?

Thanks for reading, any suggestions would be much appreciated.

46 replies

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
March 13, 2023

With the higher battery storage, the payback is a little longer (possibly 7-8 yrs) but with the first part of the system we were getting to full capacity too quickly we found and therefore not utilising the generation fully

 

Do people just assume the batteries last forever and don't degrade when doing these payback calculations to keep things simple. Or do you assume a level of depreciation on the batteries down to zero at some time in the future? 

BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
March 13, 2023

Do people just assume the batteries last forever and don't degrade when doing these payback calculations to keep things simple. Or do you assume a level of depreciation on the batteries down to zero at some time in the future? 

 

There’s a 10 year manufacturer warranty (installer supported) but I’ve actually factored in a 15 year life with a decay in storage capacity of 2% per year after 8 years

Bring me Sunshine ~ E&E {Solar PV, Battery Storage, Hybrid EV, ASHP and Home Assistant automation}
Newcomer
February 23, 2024

I took up an offer from my local council to get a company to quote for battery storage. This resulted in a home vist and examination of my solar system. My system is 8 years old and would require a new inverter as well as batteries.  The quote was over £6000 with a pay back period of 5 years.  I challenged this because I would have to pay nothing for electricity to achieve this. I never heard from this company again. As previously posted the ideal set up would to have an Electric car which would act as a battery to my solar system. Surely possible in the near future.

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
February 26, 2024

Hey @SRF,

 

£6000 is quite an investment, I wonder if @Heatherd or @BPLightlog have any advice here? 

 

This topic has some interesting insight:

 

 

Unfortunately we’re no longer taking participants for our home battery trial, but our Home Battery webpage might still be of interest to you. 

 

‘As previously posted the ideal set up would to have an Electric car which would act as a battery to my solar system.’ do you think getting an EV would be an option for you in the future? 

Renewable Energy? Big Fan.
BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
February 26, 2024

Battery storage is often a longer payback but it is often worthwhile as you never match usage to solar production and so solar on its own is not ideal. 
I always recommend an inverter which will allow battery storage at some point and most solutions allow a modular approach. We started with 2 batteries 10 years after having solar PV installed and have now added further batteries. 
I am always cautious of an indirect approach as installers are a mixed bunch and may not have the knowledge needed on pre-installed equipment. 
 

Bring me Sunshine ~ E&E {Solar PV, Battery Storage, Hybrid EV, ASHP and Home Assistant automation}
Newcomer
February 26, 2024

Thanks for the responses I decided against paying for batteries and a upgraded inverter on personal grounds.  I am 74 years of age so any payback period would take me well into old age.my annual electricity bills would have to be close to zero to get to the 5 years payback time. Even though prices have increased I can buy a lot of electricity for £6000