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I have three meters - Why is my Monthly statement wrong again?

  • July 14, 2020
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Hello all.

I only joined OVO in March, so I’ve only had 4 monthly statements so far & every 1 of them have been wrong.

As a new customer I’ve been keeping an eye on my account, just to make sure my direct debit payment covers my actual usage costs.

I’m guessing I have a different setup to most, as in the fact that we have 2 gas meters & 1 electric. only 1 gas, 1 elec are smart meters.

The normal view on the illustrative statement is correct up until my monthly statement has been produced, so the billing on all 3 meters is in sync. Albeit as long as a manually supply my dumb meter reading.

But my actual bill so far every month has only incorporated any 1 of the meters, or 2 of the meters or even once after a phone call to OVO to let them know, it had been amended to show a combination of 2 different meters.

Every month I place a call to OVO to let them know my monthly statement is wrong again & eventually OVO produces a correct statement.

I’m almost certain it’s the 3 meters & not the usual 2 that are the problem.

I did have the smart meters turn dumb for 6 weeks in May- June with the IHD also showing no data, a power cut during the night restored the service, I lost the daily smart meter readings for a week the end of June so yet another phone call to OVO, but OVO we’re still receiving readings, my OVO account is now showing smart meter readings OK but is not showing any usage data for July.

I've had more conversations with OVO in 3 months than I’ve had with any energy supplier over the last 10 yrs.

How hard can it be to get my actual monthly statement correct.

 

Tom...

Best answer by TomThumb

Updated on 18/10/23 by Abby_OVO

 

Sorry to hear of the difficulties you’ve had with the billing on your account since switching to OVO with multiple meters.

 

Usually, even with more that one gas meter associated to your account you should receive a monthly summary covering the combined usage on both meters. The easiest way to view these monthly summaries is via the ‘Billing history’ page of your online account of OVO app (download for Android or iOS).

 

Exact appearance may vary

 

If you notice any errors or missing usage on these monthly summaries, reach out to our Support Team who can take a look in to the details of your account and raise this to our technical team if it’s not something they are able to resolve immediately. 

In this example the combination of a smart and non-smart gas meter caused an unexpected technical bug. See the comment below for the action taken to resolve this unusual issue.
 

 

 Having given OVO 9 months to resolve my billing issues to no avail, I changed  my approach this month & I decided to raise an official complaint on this matter.

 

This resulted with an informative chat with the technical department & fingers crossed a full resolution.

 

 Previously I had requested that my traditional gas meter be moved to a separate new account, leaving my 2 smart meters in place, but after the customer service agent consulted with management, the answer came back as a NO.

 

This time however, ovo have agreed to this & a new account has been setup for the sole use of my dumb gas meter.

From a customer point of view, it’s the best possible outcome.

If all goes well?

 

I will gain accurate monthly bill’s,

 

I will see usage history across all 3 meters, 

 

It will make my energy usage / costs / bill’s & statements a hell of a lot easier to manage,

 

Im guessing my traditional gas meter will still have a conflict with it’s projected Vs actual kWh’s usage & costs, given the fact this meter is heavily used during the summer & has zero usage over the winter months,  I will be in a better position to identify any mismatch as this meter is no longer grouped with the remaining 2 smart meters. I’m also hoping that ovo’s backend system will see this as a trend & adjust it’s estimates accordingly for this supply?

 

I won’t have to call ovo every month to complain about my account & bills,

 

The only drawback is I’ll have to click to switch between accounts on a drop down tab 😳👍

(I can cope, bring it on)

 


What I did ascertain from the call with the technical department, 

The only error found on my account was a validation error for my traditional gas meter for this month?

The old billing system can’t cope with 3 meters!

The new billing platform can’t cope with 3 meters ? (I never got to test it!)

Ovo had no clue of what was broken, so didn’t know what to fix?

Ovo should have listened to my suggestion of 2 account months ago! (wishful thinking)

 

Hopefully after next months bill / statement, if all goes well, I can post an update & finally mark this as case closed? 


Tom...

 

 


 

 

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TomThumb
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December 22, 2020

Another update,  I might have broken ovo again🙈

 I’ve just been on my ovo account & I had a pop up stating I have not provided a meter read?

Very strange as my account had been up to date with all meter readings this morning.

Now however the complete meter reading history for my smart gas meter has vanished from my account.

I know ovo were poking around in my account yesterday, could the change to a zero usage flag on my traditional gas meter be to blame?

 

On the plus side, the zero usage flag has now put the projected usage for next month’s statement back to real world figures 👍

 

Tom...

3 meters: Smart Gas & Smart Elec / Traditional Gas meter
Blastoise186
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December 22, 2020

Wow, @TomThumb you really seem to be very good at breaking OVO’s systems!

I think your diagnosis is probably also correct. Since I’m pretty sure hardly any billing systems/platforms are designed to properly handle your meter setup, applying a zero-usage flag to your second gas meter probably got interpreted as a zero-usage flag on both gas meters.

I hope this gets solved soon. The ultimate best outcome in my opinion would be having the Orion platform add support for edge cases like yours and have your account migrated over. I can foresee a few potential snags during such a migration and it probably wouldn’t be a smooth transfer, but hopefully once that’s done you should be sorted.

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TomThumb
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December 24, 2020

Update 

After previously reporting the the system changes made by ovo had wiped my smart gas meter reading history, my ovo is now reporting readings as normal, albeit  only 3 days of them.

As the usage history had been unaffected by this change, it has subsequently had a knock on affect on the ovo app, 

The app has always displayed meaningless data as is still the case with the electric tab!

but now the gas tab is reporting actual usable data,  day / month / year / ££ / kWh 👍 

If ovo can replicate the process on my electric usage, they might be moving in the right direction 😀

If they manage to get my traditional gas meter usage history as well, that truly will be a Christmas miracle 😃


 

Tom…

A very Merry Christmas to you all...

3 meters: Smart Gas & Smart Elec / Traditional Gas meter
Tim_OVO
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December 29, 2020

 

 

 

 

 

 

It really is interesting to hear the changes happening, seemingly weekly, to what you can see on your online account, and how this correlates to what is happening behind the scenes. 

 

 

I’m not able to offer any support or advice for these usage section issues, @TomThumb - as it’s on the legacy billing platform we will struggle to get the root cause added into a list for developer fixing. 

 

The key thing for me here is your billing. That needs to be correct, it needs to be automated and monthly. 

 

 


 

Tom…

A very Merry Christmas to you all...

 

And same to you! Any plans for new years eve in tier 2, 3, or 4? No, didn’t think so :joy:

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TomThumb
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January 13, 2021

As it’s my monthly statement time again, I’m back to provide an update,


Ovo have yet again failed to bill me correctly this month. 

I’ve been with Ovo 10 months & over that time I’ve had 10 monthly statements that have been incorrect, so 10 out of 10 to Ovo for there failure.

Ovo have still only managed to bill 2 out of my 3 meters this month, but they have decided to mix it up a little & bill just my smart electric & dumb gas meter.


The other observations of note on my Ovo account this month is that the Ovo app has reverted back to being totally useless, with the usage tab once again showing meaningless data against my gas usage alongside the electric data.

 

Also the illustrative statement makes interesting reading, as this statement is merely a guide & not an actual statement, it for fun only.

Given I have already been billed correctly up to the 10th Dec,

And Ovo have deleted all meter readings from my Ovo account  prior to 22nd Dec, so I can’t actually check the readings, 

Could this bill be correct?   Who knows? 

As a customer I am definitely not up for cryptic guessing games when a straightforward bill will do.

 

Tom...

 

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Transparent
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January 13, 2021

Cost of gas used = minus £89.53  @TomThumb ? :open_mouth:

What’s the calorific value of the gas you’re exporting?

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TomThumb
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January 13, 2021

If only @Transparent, add in to the mix the time I’ve spent on the phone to Ovo sorting there issues out, they should paying me lol.

Im on hold now to them yet again,  

According to ovo customer services it had been me who requested that my 3 meters be put back on a single account? The fact that that it was reverted back by Ovo themselves is an insult to me. 
OVO had closed my official complaint last month without notifying me, so another official complaint is now in progress!.

 

Ovo have again stated a new account for the sole use of my traditional gas meter is the way forward & are setting that up as I type,

They are insistent on my new complaint should now be closed but no way am I doing that.


Just finished my monthly call into Ovo, 

As per last month’s short lived resolution, I again have 2 Ovo accounts, 1 for both smart meters & 1 for my traditional gas meters.

Ovo blaming the wrong account type being setup last month for the failure in Dec.

I have insisted that my complaint be kept open, at least until my Feb bill / statements have been produced & are correct.

The fact that Ovo closed my official complaint last month without a resolution or response is high on the list of this month’s complaint.

This time Ovo have stated that both accounts have had all previous statements cleared & that a new single statement for each account has been generated from when I first joined Ovo back in March 2020,

Hopefully I have a saved email with my opening meter readings so I can check the figures & actual costs, (do I trust Ovo to get my account & billing correct? Lol)  as my smart gas meter readings on my Ovo only go back to 22nd Dec.

Then do the same when my newly created account is made available to me.

 

Having 3 meters has caused slight issues with previous energy suppliers, but nothing comes close to how Ovo have managed sry mismanaged my account.

 

Can I now put an end to this thread?

Only time will tell?

 

Tom...

 

 

 

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TomThumb
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January 13, 2021

Another  update, 


Having just been back in touch with Ovo to clarify a seemingly minor glitch on the changes made to my account this morning,  I’m now not holding out any hope of the new account for the sole use of my traditional gas meter going live after all.

Although the customer service rep could see the newly created account, he couldn’t access it’s data,  add in the fact that Ovo do not actually offer a gas only supply, his opinion was that this newly created account was already set to crash & burn.

 

The complaints department should be in touch with me in the next few days, that will give the Ovo servers a few days to pull the data through or fail yet again in the creation of this new account. 

 

On the plus side, I’m somewhat confident that the new single statement generated by Ovo for March 2020 to January 2021 for my 2 smart meters is correct. 

The fact that Ovo had deleted all my meter readings prior to December 22nd for my gas smart meter made this a challenge, but credit to my previous energy supplier for keeping my old account / data / meter readings available to me online.

 

With the changes made to my account by Ovo this morning, I was expecting the my Ovo app to once again show some meaningful data & I was not left disappointed, I have again a working usage tab with a day / month / year view,

The unexpected part was that I could not login to my account with my email & password,

Ovo via the web asks for either my email or Ovo id & password !

The Ovo app asks for my email & password !

Both only accept my Ovo id & password, 


Something tells me this thread is far from being closed.

 

Tom...


 

 

3 meters: Smart Gas & Smart Elec / Traditional Gas meter
Tim_OVO
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January 14, 2021

Thanks for this update, @TomThumb.

 

I’m sorry to hear that the fix we put in place last month doesn’t seem to have fixed anything. I would have gone back to my colleague who was convinced all corrections had been made to allow the billing of all 3 supplies. However as your account now sits with the Complaints team, I’m staying clear. They are best placed to own this till it’s resolved. 

 

Feel free to share this thread with the complaint handler! 

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January 14, 2021

@Tim_OVOwrote:

Feel free to share this thread with the complaint handler! 

and feel free to share this thread with the Development Team for the new Billing System.

It shouldn’t be possible to have an export figure for gas!

If a negative figure needs to be inserted due to a previous incorrect calculation, then I feel it should actually be marked in the bill as an Adjustment or a Correction.

We have to make these Bills understandable by the ordinary customer… not someone with the higher-IQ which you’d expect of a software programmer.

And that’s another reason why OVO/Kaluza needs to think seriously about the use of a “Consumer Taste Panel” who are shown a prototype product before a Project Manager gets his team to spend another 50 hours programming it!

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