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I didn't receive an OVO bill years - How can I get help with the large outstanding balance?

  • March 18, 2022
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I am so disappointed and saddened by ovo, in a nutshell I have just come out of a controlling marriage . I have took over the bills in Aug 2020 when I realised the gas and electric hadn't been paid for 6 years . I immediately set up a direct debit explained my situation . They now want to Increase my direct debit to 859 a month good luck with that when I only earn 1200 a month. I have sent endless letters and emails . Everytime I am told to ring collections but I can't get them to answer.  I don't know where else to turn so I have complained to the energy Ombudsman .  They allowed this debt to Increase over 6 years so the least they can do is let me pay back at a comfortable rate. They ignore my letters this is really worrying me now

Best answer by Jeffus

Updated on 18/10/23 by Abby_OVO

Hi @Barney21 and thanks for sharing this experience with us here. I want to help as best I can. 

 

I’ve been able to contact our Collections team using this number:  0800 0699 831. I’d recommend you ring them when you’re free to discuss your options. They’re open till 6pm on week days. They should be able to work with you to make sure the account balance is for energy you’re responsible for and that the repayment rates are manageable. 

 

You’ve called out contacting the Energy Ombudsmen. I wanted to highlight here that if the cause of your complaint has been raised to OVO within the last 8 weeks, the Ombudsman may ask you to try and resolve this directly with OVO first. For more info on our complaints process, see here

 

We’ve recently made some great online resources to help members with price cap rises. See this page here for more info on that. For lots of advice and support with your energy payments, go here

 

Need more help and advice?

For free, independent advice on debt, energy costs, and other areas where you might need support, these organisations and charities can also help: 

  • Citizens Advice - visit your local branch, or their websites: for England and Wales and for Scotland. You can speak to an advisor online, in person, or over the phone: 0800 144 8848 (England), 0800 702 2020 (Wales), and 0800 028 1456 (Scotland). 
  • National Debtline - call 0808 808 4000 or visit their website.
  • Step Change Debt Charity - call 0800 138 1111 or visit their website
  • Civil Legal Advice - call 0845 345 4 345 for free, confidential legal advice in England and Wales, if you’re eligible for legal aid. Find out if you are here.

If you have a negative balance of more than £150 and you’re unable to pay your energy bill, you might qualify for a one-off payment from our OVO Energy Fund.

 

Hope this helps,
Tim

Hi the first bill I received was 27th Aug 2020 and it says starting balance 6126..00 nothing before then 

Wendy

 

OK. I would discuss all this with the Citizens advice team you have already been referred to and OVO. Citizens Advice will be use to this sort of query as per their website. 

Of course this is all based on my limited questions so see what Citizens advice say. 

As you say the account has always been in your name so there is a debt of some sort you are liable for. 

 

The first bill you actually received you say  was 27th August 2020. It would be useful to know if OVO think they actually sent you any bills before then, it doesn't sound like they think they have sent you a prior bill but I didn't explicitly ask you that. 

OVO can only back bill you 12 months energy on that first bill unless you have done something fraudulent like wiring the meter to steal gas or electricity, or not letting someone read the meters for example. It doesn't sound like you have done anything fraudulent. You have just been in an abusive relationship. 

A debt of 6126 sounds more than 12 months energy. Making a educated assumption, the period between 2014 and 2020 is 6 years as you said. Lets assume for the moment that the 6126 is for 6 years energy. Let's assume the preceding 12 months was a 6th of 6126, so 1021.

1021 would be the most OVO could charge you for the energy as they are only able to go back 12 months. OVO may be able to confirm what the cost of the 12 months energy actually was given it is a smart meter.

Of course you are liable for subsequent energy usage and as i am sure you are aware energy has gone up recently.

Just to say again this is based on limited information, so you would need to discuss further with Citizens Advice and OVO to see if it applies.

 

Good luck, feel free to ask anything else and let us know how you get on. 

24 replies

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
March 18, 2022

I am so disappointed and saddened by ovo, in a nutshell I have just come out of a controlling marriage . I have took over the bills in Aug 2020 when I realised the gas and electric hadn't been paid for 6 years . I immediately set up a direct debit explained my situation . They now want to Increase my direct debit to 859 a month good luck with that when I only earn 1200 a month. I have sent endless letters and emails . Everytime I am told to ring collections but I can't get them to answer.  I don't know where else to turn so I have complained to the energy Ombudsman .  They allowed this debt to Increase over 6 years so the least they can do is let me pay back at a comfortable rate. They ignore my letters this is really worrying me now

I am no expert in these matters @Barney21 

Was the bill originally in your name? If not this may help. Whether it is standard practice i don't know, but clearly possible as i have seen other similar examples with different suppliers. 

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-3839728/TONY-HETHERINGTON-Npower-debt-collectors-chasing-husband-s-bills-left.html

I also know when my dad died, his debts died with him including a utility bill which my mum didn't have to pay. 

Whether that was the energy company being compassionate i don't honestly know. But clearly there is flexibility for different situations where bills are in a partners name. 

These are not ovo examples but i would hope ovo have compassonate ways of handling this sort of situation @Jess_OVO ?

 

Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Forum Legend
March 21, 2022

Hi @Barney21 and thanks for sharing this experience with us here. I want to help as best I can. 

 

I’ve been able to contact our Collections team using this number:  0800 0699 831. I’d recommend you ring them when you’re free to discuss your options. They’re open till 6pm on week days. They should be able to work with you to make sure the account balance is for energy you’re responsible for and that the repayment rates are manageable. 

 

You’ve called out contacting the Energy Ombudsmen. I wanted to highlight here that if the cause of your complaint has been raised to OVO within the last 8 weeks, the Ombudsman may ask you to try and resolve this directly with OVO first. For more info on our complaints process, see here

 

We’ve recently made some great online resources to help members with price cap rises. See this page here for more info on that. For lots of advice and support with your energy payments, go here

 

Need more help and advice?

For free, independent advice on debt, energy costs, and other areas where you might need support, these organisations and charities can also help: 

  • Citizens Advice - visit your local branch, or their websites: for England and Wales and for Scotland. You can speak to an advisor online, in person, or over the phone: 0800 144 8848 (England), 0800 702 2020 (Wales), and 0800 028 1456 (Scotland). 
  • National Debtline - call 0808 808 4000 or visit their website.
  • Step Change Debt Charity - call 0800 138 1111 or visit their website
  • Civil Legal Advice - call 0845 345 4 345 for free, confidential legal advice in England and Wales, if you’re eligible for legal aid. Find out if you are here.

If you have a negative balance of more than £150 and you’re unable to pay your energy bill, you might qualify for a one-off payment from our OVO Energy Fund.

 

Hope this helps,
Tim

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Barney21Author
Rank 2
March 21, 2022

Hi its not a recent complaint been going on for 2 years now, I cannot get an explanation of why no duel paid for 6 years and they didn't seem to know until I got in touch . More fool me for trying to sort as there is no compromise the debt was allowed to accumulate with no action taken.  Now I'm expected to pay a minimum of 368 a month on a wage of 1300 . I cannot get no help as I work 

 

nealmurphy
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Newcomer
March 21, 2022

@Barney21  As @Jeffus has set out, a key factor will be what name the account was in for those 6 years. Did you change the name on the account when you set up the DD in 2020?

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
March 21, 2022

Hi its not a recent complaint been going on for 2 years now, I cannot get an explanation of why no duel paid for 6 years and they didn't seem to know until I got in touch . More fool me for trying to sort as there is no compromise the debt was allowed to accumulate with no action taken.  Now I'm expected to pay a minimum of 368 a month on a wage of 1300 . I cannot get no help as I work 

 

Clearly i don't have all the information. 

1. If the bills were not in your name as far as i know you are not liable.

2. If you didn't receive bills for 6 years you are not liable. They can only back bill up to 12 months. There is a letter on the citizens advice website you can use.

I would recommend getting all your information together and talking to citizens advice about these two points.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/energy/energy-supply/problems-with-your-energy-bill/you-havent-received-a-gas-or-electricity-bill-in-a-while/#:~:text=If%20you%20haven't%20received%20an%20accurate%20gas%20or%20electricity,more%20than%2012%20months%20ago.

 

Alternatively Thisismoney also often take up cases if you feel you feel this might help

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/article-1585631/This-Money-Contact-thisismoney-uk-email-phone.html

It is important to find out if ovo has done anything unlawful in the first instance, then get them to remove that proportion of the debt and ask for compensation. Of course i don't have all the details of who's name the debt was in and what happened to the bills for 6 years.

Your first post said 859 a month ovo bill  and 1200 income, your last post said 368 a month ovo bill and 1300 income. Was the bill reduction as a result of speaking to ovo recently? What did ovo change? 

Barney21Author
Rank 2
March 21, 2022

I don't want to go into to much detail as its very distressing the duel fuel bills HVe always been in my name . I wasn't allowed access to our bank accounts .  It's only after escaping the situation I found out no payments had been made for 6 years. I have tried to negotiate a comfortable payment plan with ovo but they only agreed to 368 a month sorry typo before I earn 1300 a month unfortunately the direct debit failed now they want 859 a month I was comfortably paying 250 a month but they won't accept it .  I have been in touch with citizens advice and they are referring me to a specialist unit that deals with energy debt

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
March 21, 2022

I don't want to go into to much detail as its very distressing the duel fuel bills HVe always been in my name . I wasn't allowed access to our bank accounts .  It's only after escaping the situation I found out no payments had been made for 6 years. I have tried to negotiate a comfortable payment plan with ovo but they only agreed to 368 a month sorry typo before I earn 1300 a month unfortunately the direct debit failed now they want 859 a month I was comfortably paying 250 a month but they won't accept it .  I have been in touch with citizens advice and they are referring me to a specialist unit that deals with energy debt

I can appreciate it is hard. I hope citizens advice can help, clearly 859 is unaffordable whatever the circumstances. You don't have to answer, just trying to help. 

In the 6 years, did ovo send you any bills? 

Sadly energy bills have gone up which will only be adding to the monthly amount ovo are asking for.

Feel free to post again if you think any of us can help. Good luck. 

Barney21Author
Rank 2
March 21, 2022

Hi 

I do appreciate the help no I didn't receive any bills to my email address like I do now.  Looking back the meters were swapped in 2014 to smart meters which should have been pay as you go . This didn't happen and normal meters were fitted . No balance was owed at this point I'm not sure what has gone wrong but something clearly has 

Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
March 21, 2022

Hi 

I do appreciate the help no I didn't receive any bills to my email address like I do now.  Looking back the meters were swapped in 2014 to smart meters which should have been pay as you go . This didn't happen and normal meters were fitted . No balance was owed at this point I'm not sure what has gone wrong but something clearly has 

OK. For the moment lets put to one side the issue with the incorrect meter and the issue with you not receiving any bills. 

So after smart meters were fitted in 2014 you didn't receive any bills for some time. 

1. What date did you receive the first bill after 2014? 

2.. How far back did OVO bill you on that first bill you actually received? 

 

 

Barney21Author
Rank 2
March 21, 2022

Hi the first bill I received was 27th Aug 2020 and it says starting balance 6126..00 nothing before then 

Wendy