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Greener living all year round- How are people reducing energy?

  • November 29, 2023
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How to achieve the targets to use less energy for cheaper bills. it’s easier when you have to do it for an hour works well.

Best answer by waltyboy

Updated on 04/12/25 by Abby_OVO​​​​​​​​​​

 

Hi @JNeve, brilliant, that saves you having to take manual readings twice a day (as I was doing for 13 years before my smart meter arrived!).

 

That’s by far the biggest energy-saving step, I find, ensuring your OVO account (or other energy provider?) is set to receive half-hourly meter readings.  That way, every few days, you can accurately monitor your usage (gas and electricity, but mainly electricity). 
 

We are a retired couple living in a smallish mid-terrace, so we can be flexible around our energy consumption, in a way that many households cannot be. There are loads of good tips in this forum from various folk on various thread, definitely worth a good explore! For example, my wife and I routinely use a smallish rechargeable battery-power vacuum cleaner and reserve the big mains one for very, very occasional use.  Loads of tips on here from different users, so you’ll have fun exploring around! If you have specific queries as a result of digging around, or indeed at any time, I’ll be delighted to respond as best I can, and there are plenty of folk on here who are infinitely better qualified than I am who are very helpful. 
 

We got PV panels ten years ago, and if that’s something that might be on your mind, I have ten years of PV data for our small set-up here in Sunderland (not the sunniest spot in the UK by any stretch!), and it’s not always easy to find actual solar panel data from an actual user over such a long period from an actual smallish NE terraced house! So let me know if that sounds relevant to you?

 

Last Autumn we took a bit of a financial gamble and I obtained a small LiFePo4 battery (24 volt 100 AH, equates roughly to 2.5 kWh capacity, though, as with any battery, not all of that is available) and a small inverter, which recharges during the day, and at night for 17 hours solid powers the entire house (small, of course, but it does have a ‘fridge/freezer, small chest freezer and all the usual background stuff of mains alarms, landline handsets, router etc. - plus led TV and lighting before we go to bed) from 1600 hrs to 0900 hrs. During the winter months in daylight (“daylight”!!) the PV panels only provide about 1kWh (sometimes, on the very worst and darkest days they might provide nothing), so we need to buy between 1 and 1.5 kWh daily on average during Nov, Dec, and Jan, the hardest months with the shortest days with the sun (when it’s there!) at its lowest angle. Before the battery, in the winter months we bought around 1kWh during the nighttime alone between 2200 and 0800. So even a small battery like ours (most people talk about battery storage of minimum 5 kWh) makes a big difference. 

Lots of other smaller outlays which can eventually have a huge impact, such as getting a plug-in energy monitor to gauge the consumption of your various appliances. The smart meter IHD is brilliant, but there is that half-hour or so time lag.  

And this brings me to my final point for the moment (hope you’re wading through all this OK! Apologies for the wordiness!): Previously we’ve always concentrated on daylight versus nighttime consumption and on being really disciplined at all times on what we use, when we use it, and on replacing old kit with newer kit when we can afford it. But since the OVO Power Move initiative we additionally now factor in our Peak Hours consumption and reduce it as much as we possibly can, which can earn you an extra £15 in your account every month. That’s not a fortune, but it makes a nice contribution: in effect it’s getting your entire electricity standing charge for the month paid off, or, it’s the equivalent of around 50kWh of free electricity.  That’s about a week’s worth of electricity for an average household. Plus, being extra rigorous with Peak Hours consumption has raised our awareness enormously and is good for all our community.

 

All the very best of luck to you, let us know what occurs!

On our website you can find some helpful pages with energy saving tips and our guide to efficiency. I’ve also included some helpful Forum articles below with some great advice for cutting usage and costs 👇

 

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BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
November 29, 2023

What’s your formula @JNeve , how do you use less - any tips are always useful

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JNeveAuthor
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November 29, 2023

Well l was hoping you could tell me BPlightlog. I find it harder using less energy any other time during the day.

JNeveAuthor
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November 29, 2023

Well if their is any useful tips please let me know l am forever be great full.

 

 

BPLightlog
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Super User
November 29, 2023

Well l was hoping you could tell me BPlightlog. I find it harder using less energy any other time during the day.

Lol - looking at your post title, I thought you were suggesting it’s easy.

For me, I tend to prepare food just before the event and finish off if needed with little power use. I use an air fryer rather than the main oven which saves a fair amount of power as well.

Most appliances - washing machine, microwave, oven etc - are not used for that time and we have low usage of other appliances anyway.

We use led light bulbs so they consume next to nothing and are generally more careful in peak time use.

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waltyboy
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November 29, 2023

Hi @JNeve, like @BPLightlog suggests above.

 

However, I was curious: I like your “greener living” heading, can I ask whether you’re thinking of any specifics when you mention “targets”? Like current initiatives by OVO (and others), or are you thinking in general terms of your own household’s targets to achieve greener living (and also get some costs down!).

 

 

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JNeveAuthor
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November 29, 2023

Yes l was thinking of reaching my targets of less energy all round. maybe l try that either using the different appliances later on or early.

 

 

 

 

BPLightlog
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November 29, 2023

Yes l was thinking of reaching my targets of less energy all round. maybe l try that either using the different appliances later on or early.

 

As I mentioned, an air fryer is particularly good if possible (we only use our main oven occasionally these days). LED bulbs as well use significantly less power which tends to mount up in winter. 
How about heating? If you have a gas boiler, it’s worth checking the settings like flow temperature and also hot water (so you don’t add cold to make it usable) 

There are several guide available 

 

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Rank 2
November 29, 2023

All the lights have been LED for as long as not was possible but have to use them in the dark. Short of turning them on outside the target timesthe only option. Is sitting on the darker going out.  I only ever use the air fryer these days except for the very occasional roast dinner at the weekend. 

I too thought this referred to only having one hour to focus on, and that might be achievable by avoiding all cooking, hot drink making etc for one hour. However it's not realistic to spend 3 or 4 hours in the winter sitting in the dark with cold drinks.  

November 29, 2023

We have two heavy duty “appliances” (an EV and a pottery kiln) which is an advantage when it comes to shifting usage but a disadvantage in that they make our bills higher than would otherwise be the case.

 

My EV is scheduled to only draw power from midnight to 4 pm and then again from 7 pm to midnight on weekdays and I try to charge on weekdays.

 

We also try to fire the kiln up on a mid-week evening so that it runs overnight.

 

Those who don’t have such heavy usage items can try doing the same thing with ovens, washing machines, dryers, electric fires, dishwashers etc..

 

It is really not worth bothering with TVs and light bulbs!

Newcomer
November 29, 2023

Agreed, after the obvious ( washer, dryer,  oven) and maybe less obvious (charging up devices, get an air fryer, swap to LEDs) then assuming you have insulation, double glazing etc further savings are barely achievable. I'm not going to sit in the dark or spend hours trawling through spreadsheets because of energy producers’ incompetence , greed and lack of planning!  More savings by having one less beer per week ;-)