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Can I get some advice on RTS Switch off and Smart Meters for my PAYG meter?

  • September 13, 2024
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I got the email to switch over to a smart meter last week,just as I was away ,so only digesting it now! 


I’m reasonably okay with having the old meter taken out,but a few concerns/questions - for those that have had the switch, mainly how these things work compared to the old RTS meters that are being phased out and the tariffs.. 


So what are the differences between the two meters?

I’ve been on a PAYG tariff and understand that’s going to be the same with the switch to a smart meter, but for those of you that have,how much more expensive have you found it? 

And lastly,presuming the old meter key system for the RTS meter means I won’t be using that key to top up when the smart meter is installed?


Cheers! 

Best answer by Blastoise186

Updated on 15/04/25 by Abby_OVO

 

Hi @mrsparkles5481 ,

Please note that Blastoise186 is a trusted Forum Volunteer, he doesn’t work for OVO

 

We don’t seem to have had many folks come here yet who’ve had RTS PAYG, so I’m not sure how many responses you’ll get on that front. Please accept our apologies for this.

 

The biggest differences are ultimately down to three things:

 

  • How the meter knows when to switch rates - Smart Meters control this locally without needing external signals as they’re effectively “Set and Forget”
  • How meter readings are submitted (PAYG Only) - as you’re PAYG a meter reading would be automatically submitted every night, rather than only when you top-up and these submissions would also back up your current credit balance to OVO’s systems, just to be extra safe, but you cannot change the frequency of these submissions
  • How meter readings are submitted (PAYM Only) - for those on Pay Monthly, meter readings will be submitted automatically every day by default but the submission frequency can be changed if you wish
  • How you top-up (PAYG Only) - you wouldn’t use a key/card anymore - you’d use a new method
  • How you pay your bill (PAYM Only) - there would be no changes to your payment method, frequency or amount as a result of the meter swap itself

 

Additionally, you may be able to keep the same tariff or you may need to change it. If you’re able to keep the same tariff, then nothing changes on that front. If you need to change it, OVO will help you with your options to find the best value possible based on what they can get for you. If you’re on Flat Rate, Economy 7 or Economy 10 right now, then there’s a 98% chance you’ll probably get to keep it that way. Otherwise, you may be asked to pick a new tariff.

 

As you’re PAYG, if you’re on the same tariff after the upgrade then it should cost you about the same as being on RTS PAYG does unless you are told otherwise. If it ends up being more expensive, either you’re using more than you thought or the RTS Meter was faulty somehow.

 

As for topping-up, you can still go to the shops if you wish and that will remain supported for the foreseeable future. However, you’d be able to use an app or website too so you could also top-up from home (or use the app barcode in shops) making it far more convenient. The key you have now however, would be taken from you by the installing engineer and returned to OVO as you’d no longer have a use for it.

 

Hope this helps!

 

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17 replies

November 19, 2024

I felt the response from OVO which I had today,reiterating my worries and refusal to switch to smart until we have to, was not only dismissed but it was more “do it or we will do this...” ,which I have not replied to, and will not.  

I said about switching supplier and asked when is the earliest opportunity to do so, and that was ignored.  Then followed up by a second email with the usual “your meter will stop working unless you switch..” that others have had. I deleted the email.


As someone with a severe mental health condition which right now isn’t in the best shape, I don’t need this worry and upset. So ignoring all comms for the time being until I feel I can deal with it. 

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
November 20, 2024

Hey ​@mrsparkles5481 

I’m really sorry to hear this

 

It might be worth escalating a complaint if you’re not happy with the responses you’ve received.
 

 

You’ll be assigned a complaints handler. You mentioned you have mental health issues I just wanted to add that the priority services register might have some helpful resources. 
 

Priority Services Register (PSR)

 

What does the PSR offer? 

  • Gas Safety Checks
  • Engineer Passwords where you can agree a password with your supplier that the engineer will give you before entering your property
  • Adapted communications including black & white print, braille, large print
  • Warnings about planned power cuts in your area
  • Regular meter readers to attend your property

Find out more about it here.

 

 

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November 29, 2024

I am already on the PSR. 


I will be escalating - to the Ombudsman. And I still haven’t been furnished with an answer as to how soon I can move supplier because of how this has all gone. I don’t want to stay a minute longer than I have to.


Ironic that the minute I’d posted my last reply ,an email appears trying to get me to book a smart meter appointment, which I have ignored. I am not taking one until I’m reassured that the problems I’ve seen as posted earlier,will NOT happen to me.  And the “if you don’t do this,this will happen to you” rhetoric as in the response to my complaint via email  is as far as i am concerned,intimidatory in its’ language,which really upset me,so I did not respond to it. And won’t respond to further comms.

Abby_OVO
Community Manager
Community Manager
December 2, 2024

 

Hey ​@mrsparkles5481 

 

I’m really sorry for the issues you’ve been experiencing.

 

I’m going to have our Forum_Support team reach out to you so they can help you further with this. Look out for a private message here soon: https://forum.ovoenergy.com/inbox/overview

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December 2, 2024

 

Hey ​@mrsparkles5481 

 

I’m really sorry for the issues you’ve been experiencing.

 

I’m going to have our Forum_Support team reach out to you so they can help you further with this. Look out for a private message here soon: https://forum.ovoenergy.com/inbox/overview

I won’t be responding to it as I have made clear. 

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
December 2, 2024

You’re not helping yourself ​@mrsparkles5481 . By refusing support, you’re going to have a hard time getting anything done.

I’d strongly recommend you let Forum Support take a look, as not doing so could damage your Ombudsman case later if OVO can prove it tried to help you further but you disengaged.

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December 2, 2024

You’re not helping yourself ​@mrsparkles5481 . By refusing support, you’re going to have a hard time getting anything done.

I’d strongly recommend you let Forum Support take a look, as not doing so could damage your Ombudsman case later if OVO can prove it tried to help you further but you disengaged.

I’m not going to respond to that upsetting comment. I’m done.