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£66 government energy bills support scheme deducted from my OVO account balance not added?

  • October 7, 2022
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  • November 2, 2022

Hi guys, 

 

I pay my bill  by direct debit so I assume the refund will get paid back into my bank account? If this is the case how long should I expect it to take? I pay my bill on the 27th of each month


Jeffus
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Hi guys, 

 

I pay my bill  by direct debit so I assume the refund will get paid back into my bank account? If this is the case how long should I expect it to take? I pay my bill on the 27th of each month

Hi @aarondowding personally i would wait 5 working days after you see the Refund line on your bills. Can you see that yet? 

 


Jeffus
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@Mark L the government gave suppliers the choice

1. Refund the £66 to customers bank accounts.

2. Take the £66 off customers direct debits.

Suppliers are basically split. About half are taking it off direct debits, and half refunding the money to peoples bank accounts. 

 

Surely there’s no difference between those two, is there? For someone with a DD of £100, putting £66 into his account and then taking £100 out is exactly the same as putting nothing in and taking £34 out. On the other hand, things get complicated for someone whose DD is £50. Who gets to keep the £16? OVO, in the customer’s account, or the customer, in his bank account? 

On balance, I think OVO’s system is the most transparent.

Hi @Firedog ultimately both approaches distribute the money as, you highlight 

For the vulnerable people i know, a reduction in the direct debit would have been better. It would have reduced the risk of them being overdrawn on their bank account for a few days in the period between taking the direct debit and getting the £66. A small benefit in the scale of things. But banking charges can mount up for some. 

I suspect the Energy Bill Support Scheme in its current state will never be repeated. We have donated our £400 to charity, and i would encourage others to do the same if they don't really need it. But obviously that is a personal choice. 


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  • November 2, 2022

No not yet! I will wait until I see that then, thank you!


Jeffus
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No not yet! I will wait until I see that then, thank you!

Hi @aarondowding if the Refund line doesn't appear by the end of the week i suggest contacting the OVO Support Team. For a small number of customers we have heard the first payment has had to be pushed through manually if their direct debit was close to the end of the month. 

 


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  • November 2, 2022

I never got mine 


Blastoise186
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  • November 2, 2022

Hi @Wendy64 ,

If your £66 didn’t come through at all, please let the Support Team know. They can force it through if necessary!

Could you show us what you’re seeing though please?


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  • November 2, 2022

I am just wondering as I am running out on electricity and don't get paid till Friday 


Blastoise186
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In that case, there may be options to get things like Additional Support Credit and you do have your Emergency Credit. Try having a chat with Support. They’ll sort you out.

If they can force the £66 through, they will.


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  • November 2, 2022

OK, so, for the past 2 months for thise of us that pay by dd, ovo have processed a £66 refund into our accounts. All that is doing is refunding £66 of the £251 I pay each month. There is no credit to my account. So yes, my payment has reduced by 66 each month, but as my usage is the same I'm just being allowed to pay less. Its not actually reducing the bill by 66 which was the point of this scheme. We should get a £66 credit on the account AND then a refund of £66 to benefit.  They are basically just giving us our money back not crediting the 66 pound. Which leaves the accounts worse of each month. 

 


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  • November 2, 2022

@Jolewin 

Click on "See details"

Look for "Energy Bill Support Scheme"

 


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  • November 2, 2022

@Jeffus , thanks for the reply I have done that but it doesn't address the point I'm afraid.  

 

If you take my screenshot as the example. 

 

I had a credit balance of £103.65. 

For the period my usage was £46.27

This would leave a credit balance of £57.38. 

I then paid my dd of £251.00

This would leave a credit balance of 308.38. 

They then refunded me £66. Great gave me the £66 pounds back. But my balance also reduced to £242.38. 

So yes they have refunded me £66 of my own balance not reduced it in any way.... the refund just give me 66 I've already paid back not 66 additional which is what the scheme is supposed to do. 


Jeffus
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Hi,

Post a screen shot of what you see when you click on see details. You may need to post a couple of screen shots.

I will explain how it works.

OK?


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  • November 2, 2022

Hey @Jeffus , don't worry I've worked it out now! I can see the 66 credit has been made before the £46.27 balance is displaced. 

 

Thanks for your help, mystery solved! 

Jo


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Hey @Jeffus , don't worry I've worked it out now! I can see the 66 credit has been made before the £46.27 balance is displaced. 

 

Thanks for your help, mystery solved! 

Jo

Happy to help 😊


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For the vulnerable people i know, a reduction in the direct debit would have been better. It would have reduced the risk of them being overdrawn on their bank account for a few days in the period between taking the direct debit and getting the £66.  

That is a valid argument - thanks for putting it forward. However, it sounds as if these customers might be well advised to move the date of their DD, e.g. to the day after (a) payday. 

As regards the ‘few days’, in my case it was less than 48 hours: DD on 10 October, credit to my bank account at dawn on 12 October. OMMV.

I’m one of those who would be struggling without the EBSS, so I’m afraid I can’t follow your admirable example.


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  • November 3, 2022

Hey @Wendy64,

 

Sorry for the issues you’re having.

 

It sounds like you’re PAYG with Boost? We have more information about how the Energy Bills Support Scheme payment will be paid to Boost customers in this similar thread:

 

 

If you haven’t received yours or are concerned you aren’t able to top up, please get in touch with Boost Support. As @Blastoise186 pointed out they can offer things like emergency credit or financial support. You also could discuss with them changing to pay monthly with OVO if you think that would suit you better. 

 

Hope this helps. 


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  • November 3, 2022

I am super confused by this. I can see the £66 has been paid in my bank. However, £66 is added to my monthly bill… then surely this only cancels it out.

So what’s the point in this benefit?

Surely it should be paid in to our bank and then NOT added to our bills.


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  • November 4, 2022

@Jamie80 can you check on your Charges Breakdown - there should be an entry Energy Bill Support Scheme -£66 which is a negative charge ie a payment into your account.


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@Jamie80 can you check on your Charges Breakdown - there should be an entry Energy Bill Support Scheme -£66 which is a negative charge ie a payment into your account.

Hi @juliamc it does show -£66 as a refund. But this is added to my bill total, not deducted. Unless I am missing something or maybe not understanding this correctly!?


Blastoise186
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I am super confused by this. I can see the £66 has been paid in my bank. However, £66 is added to my monthly bill… then surely this only cancels it out.

So what’s the point in this benefit?

Surely it should be paid in to our bank and then NOT added to our bills.

It’s actually deducted from the bill, not added. -£66 means it was a credit, not a debit.


juliamc
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There are two separate entries: the Refund shown in the bill summary, and the Energy Bill Support Scheme deduction from your charges in the Details section. 
 


Emmanuelle_OVO
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  • November 4, 2022

Hey @Jamie80,

 

That’s okay, we’ve seen a lot of confusion about the £66 payment on the Forum.

 

It should appear as a credit added to your account, and then refunded. A credit appears as -£66. If you take a look through the previous pages in this thread some of our community members have helpfully provided screenshots to show how it appears on their accounts. 

 

If you don’t see the payment, can you please send a screenshot of your Online Account where it says charges in detail? 

 

Let’s get to the bottom of this! 🙂


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  • November 4, 2022

Hey @Jamie80,

 

That’s okay, we’ve seen a lot of confusion about the £66 payment on the Forum.

 

It should appear as a credit added to your account, and then refunded. A credit appears as -£66. If you take a look through the previous pages in this thread some of our community members have helpfully provided screenshots to show how it appears on their accounts. 

 

If you don’t see the payment, can you please send a screenshot of your Online Account where it says charges in detail? 

 

Let’s get to the bottom of this! 🙂

 

Thank you.

Looking at my screenshot for October, this is how I read this…

I am £486.86 in debt

  • add charges for the month of £306.55
  • add refund of £66 (not deduct this)
  • … this amounts to £859.41

Now take off my direct debit of £385 and this amounts to £474.41 which is what my bill breakdown says.

I must be missing something or doing something wrong!?? But my closing balance has reduced by only £12, that can’t be right!

 

 


Ive not had anything to indicate a credit re the £66  from the government. 2 months running and they have refunded me from my own overpayment. !!!!!!!!!!!