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August 1, 2024
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Third-party access to smart meter data: recent failures

  • August 1, 2024
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Many of those who are used to retrieving their usage data from third parties have noticed an interruption in the service recently. For me, it started on 13 June and has yet to be resolved.

Third parties (called ‘other users’ by DCC) are supposed to be able, with the customer’s permission, to contact a smart meter and retrieve usage and tariff data stored in it, which they can then present in a friendly form and also make it possible to download the data. This is in many cases a more efficient system than what suppliers offer via their websites.

So far, we’ve heard from customers using n3rgy and Hugo, and also apps like Loop which piggyback on n3rgy to get the data. It appears that only those with Aclara meters are affected, although this may be a red herring: all of the affected customers I’ve come across have indeed Aclara meters, but another common factor is the communications hub - in all cases WNC. Both n3rgy and Hugo say that their credentials are not being accepted when they try to retrieve data, which suggests a fault with the secure DCC network rather than the meter itself. 

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It would help if you could give your region (the first two digits of the 13-digit MPAN), your supplier, the time stamp of the last data packet received and the make and model of the meter and the communications hub. Here are my details for starters:

Region 11 (East Midlands)
Supplier OVO
Meter Aclara SGM 1416B
CH WNC SKU1
Last data packet 13/06/2024 03:00

 

Best answer by sraper

Hey ​@sraper,

 

I’m really sorry to hear about the access issues you’re facing! It sounds frustrating. Maybe ​@JaneatGlow can jump in and help us figure out what’s going on?

 

Let’s keep our fingers crossed that we find a solution soon and get everything sorted out for you!

Hi both,

As of this morning, we still have almost 100 of our Glow users with an Aclara meter not getting data - and believe that any other ‘Other Users’ have the same issue. It is frustrating as of course it isn’t a priority for either the supplier, understandably as they are getting what they need to generate a bill, or the DCC.

Not that it helps but we’ve got a similar problem with a subset of Kaifa meters - but in that case there seems to be no pattern of model/firmware/comms hub variant…. 

And to think we put all this time in for what is a free service to the market on our part! 😂

Sorry not to have anything more positive to update on.

Thanks for the update 

67 replies

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January 7, 2026

Hey ​@sraper,

 

I’m really sorry to hear about the access issues you’re facing! It sounds frustrating. Maybe ​@JaneatGlow can jump in and help us figure out what’s going on?

 

Let’s keep our fingers crossed that we find a solution soon and get everything sorted out for you!

Hi both,

As of this morning, we still have almost 100 of our Glow users with an Aclara meter not getting data - and believe that any other ‘Other Users’ have the same issue. It is frustrating as of course it isn’t a priority for either the supplier, understandably as they are getting what they need to generate a bill, or the DCC.

Not that it helps but we’ve got a similar problem with a subset of Kaifa meters - but in that case there seems to be no pattern of model/firmware/comms hub variant…. 

And to think we put all this time in for what is a free service to the market on our part! 😂

Sorry not to have anything more positive to update on.

On a positive note.

Just had a 12 hour power cut!

And my meter is now working again. Other user access restored. Finally 

Firedog
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January 8, 2026

  

Just had a 12 hour power cut! … And my meter is now working again. Other user access restored. Finally 
  

Worth noting by ​@JaneatGlow and any metering people watching that after an update to the CH/TC, it might take a hard reset to get things working again - i.e. pull and replace the main fuse if doing it OTA doesn’t help.

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Newcomer
January 8, 2026

Hello ​@sraper - we are aware that appears to do the trick BUT obviously would not recommend the process as people should not be touching their electricity meter. Interestingly, we are seeing the numbers of affected people slowly go down - presumably due to local power cuts or other meter resets done by the supplier perhaps. Please do not engage with your meter (other than to read it!) without professional advice from an engineer or your supplier, thank you.

And Happy New Year everyone - if 8 January isn’t too late?!

Peter E
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January 8, 2026

Whilst the power cycling method of resetting might appear to be appealing (especially if your cutout fuse seal is missing)  then you need to note that if an individual does it then your smart meter would flag a power cut when that wasn't flagged by any other smart meter in the area perhaps prompting a visit by your meter supplier or DNO as an investigation.

 

Now the absence of a cutout fuse seal doesn't mean any wrongdoing. After my 2014 meter upgrade the seal wasn't replaced until my very recent meter upgrade. I asked the electrician doing the work and he said it not unusual. It now has a seal and a very prominent label stuck round it.

 

Peter 

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Firedog
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January 8, 2026

Just to be certain - I wasn't suggesting this as a DIY exercise. An electrician should be able to do it so long as he clears it with the DNO beforehand, though, shouldn't he?

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Peter E
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January 8, 2026

Agreeing with what you are say. The message was just because your cutout fuse doesn't have a seal on it don't be tempted to pull it out as a fix for a temporarily dumb smart meter.

Reducing my yearly fossil fuel usage with an EV (-900 litres petrol), A2AHP (-8,700 kWh gas) and Timed Immersion heater (-1,500 kWh gas)
Newcomer
January 8, 2026

@hexhamuser 

I’ve just started trying to download my data using the Bright website. The “Day” data downloaded seems to be surprisingly wrong when compared to the half-hourly data downloaded. 

For example, one day when the usage from the half-hour figures (and other sources) was 34kWh, the Bright Day data indicates 46kWh.

Out of around 400 days of Bright day-data, only 140 are within 1kWh of the equivalent half-hourly figures.

Am I missing something?

Sorry - I don’t even monitor our own forum - we always suggest contacting support. We are small company offering a free service with related free support - we just don’t have the resource to monitor forums (fora?) as well!

Don’t forget that the data download is in UTC so it would depend what time of year you were comparing to. Also, because we started storing energy data back in the dark ages of 2008 (anyone remember energyhive.com? first energy consumer dashboard in the world) - we timestamp at the top of the half hour, whereas since then I believe the industry timestamp at the bottom of the half hour.

Anyway, I don’t think we are that far off as we’d have heard but do contact us if you still have an issue :)