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Switched supplier: Economy 7 smart meter not sending reads and IHD needs re-configuring?

  • August 10, 2023
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Hopefully theres nothing to be concerned about but…..

Had a SMETS2 meter for about 9 months with SEB and its always worked fine, as has the IHD. Have recently been switched to OVO and suddenly Im being told my account is not getting readings

Is there a usual ‘bedding in time’ so to speak? Lights on the meter are all flashing green every 5 seconds, and the IHD usage reading are updating as normal

Yes I can supply manual readings I guess, but it rather defeats the point

 

Hopefully Im jumping the gun and it will sort itself out, but thought it best to ask

TIA

Best answer by JessicaRose

Updated on 18/12/25 by Chris_OVO

 

Posting here as I started a similar thread and @Firedog linked me to this.

Looking at the above and talking to OVO, I think I understand the cause of the problem and also have a possible solution albeit not an instant one, having spoken with OVO CS

The coding for the meter is switching the tariffs correctly, but the tariff number is wrong.  Tarif 1 has been linked to off peak and tariff 2 has been linked to peak.  I have just had a long but useful call with OVO CS and they have agreed this is the likely issue.  I have been asked to conduct a load test and note which tariffs change and by how much during each on / off peak section of the next day and call back with the results.

Having done that for this afternoons off peak, whilst using my hot water (draws only from the off peak circuit), the immersion heater is working and switched on at the correct time (1pm) but it is being attributed to tariff 1 for cost (peak rate) as that has gone up on the. meter and tariff 2 has not moved at all despite me using an immersion heater for nearly 4 hours now.

If you’re having this issue, it isn't going to resolve over time (unless OVO realise the mistake and update all the affected meters) so please call the CS and tell them so they can resolve the issue.  If you do your load tests in advance, note times and readings for each tariff at the start end end of each switch time, directly from the meter (not the IHD) and the tariff rate displayed on the meter at the time.

I don't think it will be. quick fix, the response form CS was once the issue is confirmed with these readings, it's an engineer visit after that but this should get the ball rolling to get the issue highlighted to OVO and corrected.

 

Hope this is of some use and helps to get this resolved for us all

Any discrepancies like this must be reported to our Support Team.

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MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
August 27, 2023

Okay probably last photo from me today (you’ll be happy to hear) as my head is starting to spin lol

Picture was taken at 2:05pm which should be off-peak, as per my “Your Plan” on website and previous experience at SEB

I have photographed the same TOU Rate 2 as Jessica, but to be honest I dont think it makes a difference as TOU 1 is exactly the same in terms of what is displayed bottom right

The change from peak to off peak has brought back “LC2” bottom right…..I have no clue what that is about

Finally the Active Tariff Price is showing 34.986p which is the rate for peak time so….wrong!

Thanks for whatever transpires :)

 

 

 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 27, 2023

 

On my online account I have got readings from the day I switched - but only 1 per day

 

Readings are only taken once a day, at midnight (GMT). Half-hourly usage data are taken every … errr ,,, half-hour and transmitted to OVO as a daily batch sometime during the night. Readings are stored in the meter for the last 400 days, while usage data stay there for a month or so. That’s why you might see a slight discrepancy between daily usage figures on the Month usage chart, which are worked out from the meter readings, and the ones you see on a Day chart, which are derived from the half-hourly data. It’s the readings that matter, though, when it comes to working out how much you have to pay.

  


My (not very scientific) calculations suggest that what they show as “Off-Peak” is a pretty constant 5.5 to 6 units a day

“Peak“ readings show a pretty constant 3.5 to 4 units a day EXCEPT on days when I do a load test when it jumps to 8.5 to 9

… Im effectively getting Economy 14, but come the winter……

 

Perhaps you should (a) keep your head down, and (b) use the boost function (if there is one) to heat up your hot water in the period when the rate is lowest, which looks as if it’s during peak hours.

They’ll be very keen to get this right before users like you switch the heating on.

 

BTW, I couldn’t find any current OVO tariff that matches the rates you’re seeing. You must still be on your old SSE plan. You should be able to see the current OVO rates available to you on the Plans page.

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 27, 2023

 

The change from peak to off peak has brought back “LC2” bottom right…..I have no clue what that is about

 

LC is Load Control. The two switches whose representations you sometimes see control which circuits are live, so I suppose LC2 just means that the second switch is live. I haven’t worked out why the graphic isn’t a clear enough indication, so there must be some deeper meaning. Ours not to reason why …

 

Your meter is just about identical to Jessica’s, with a serial number only a couple of hundred different. The dates on the comms hubs are a few months apart. I wonder how many of these were fitted and - apparently - wrongly configured for E10 after the migration from SSE. We’ll see …

 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
August 27, 2023

Thank you so much for the heads up on my tariff not being listed

Why do they have to make everything so complicated? Ive only been on the SEB Economy 10 one for a few months after a long complaint process to get off an old obsolete “Superdeal” tariff

As Ovo and SEB are part of the same group now I stupidly thougt their tariffs would be shared. I can see a load of tariffs in my area but no Economy 10….Economy 9 yes

Edit - thats wrong….i found my tariff listed as “Simpler Energy - Economy 10 - 01/07/2023”  (you have to adjust for 5% VAT and it then matches.

I know there has been relative tariff chaos in the market for a while, but do we have access to a good tariff comparison tool? Most of what im seeing are higher on one rate and lower on another.

At the moment I wont pay by direct debit due to a hideous experience with SEB. I had no choice but to cancel my mandate when they wanted to put my DD up to £290 a month! (single saddo living in a 2 bed flat). All based on a laughable annual usage estimate that they refused to alter!

I would have given Ovo the benefit of the doubt save for the fact they wanted to do the same to my old mum. Apparently £245 a month for a little old lady in sheltered housing is perfectly reasonable! In the 12 months following, her monthly bill has never exceeded £140 and in summer is less than £100. Oh yeah…..and she was £650 in credit!!

I thought my work as an accountant could get complicated by the electricity business…...jeez!

 

Perhaps they could make a mini series on TV of all this and we could get rich lol…...thanks again for your help

 

 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 28, 2023
Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Jeffus
Rank 20
Rank 20
September 27, 2023

Quick update for anyone interested - I called OVO with the load test readings and they agreed that they can see the problem.

 

The have escalated it to their Smart Meter team to investigate which may take (🙄) 45 days!  Since then I’ve been contacted by email and asked to conduct another load test and again been told that it will be escalated.  

Doesn't seem like too much is happening with this right now, maybe giving customers correct bills isn't a priority?  Anyway, I’ll update further if this makes any progress.

Have you made any progress @JessicaRose 

MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
September 27, 2023

Well in my case the wheels at Ovo seem to grind very slowly

No response yet to the online report of my meter problems, and no sign of my online account being updated with usage figures.

Whats really ticked me off today is that when I rang and told them its now seven weeks (they said six) and no sign of this mystical ‘verification’ being completed. The woman on the phone said it “would be updated when it is ready” and sounded like I should be grateful for that answer…...grrrrr

To be honest, I had to hang up else I may have blown a gasket after 40 mins on hold

 

Newcomer
September 27, 2023

@MikeMilf - same no progress here until I did some digging for some email addresses and started sending some emails requesting it to be dealt with as a formal Complaint, rather than a fault report and stating that I would escalate to  the Ombudsman Service if it wasn’t resolved (I’ve sadly had cause to take SSE to the ombudsman previously so the nots on my account probably show this.)

 

lo and behold, we have some movement. I’ve been offered a bill credit and they say they have resolved my account issue and corrected the problem. I’m at work at the moment so can’t  check my meter to see if the billing is now right until later today. 
 

you may find the following details useful:

 

Complaints dept (with real humans!) 0330 102 7400 or feedback@ovoenergy.com

*edited by moderator*
 

hope this helps. 

MikeMilfAuthor
Rank 5
September 27, 2023

Thank you so much Jessica…..I will certainly get on to this tomorrow, and if you could confirm your peak/off-peak issue has indeed been resolved I would be so grateful.

Also is there any person in partricular who handled your case, as our problem (and indeed our meters were identical)?

Cant believe it may come down to another formal complaint. I came to Ovo having just successfully resolved a formal complaint with SSE, who refused to accept I had unknowingly been left on an obsolete tariff for years. I am aware that submitting a formal complaint sets a six week timer running, by which time it must be resolved or you can go to the ombudsman. Has customer service really come to this? Or perhaps being part of the Ovo group means the standards apply?

(Not counting these forums, who have good helpful people contributing)

 

Thanks again

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
September 27, 2023

Hey guys… Just a reminder. Please DO NOT post employee email addresses to this forum. The moderators don’t like that and I’ve had to report your post.

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