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Jun 19, 2023 2:32 PM UTC
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Smart meter manual reading different to smart reading

I’m hoping anyone on here can shed some light on this.

Before I go into the issue in more detail, my questions is as follows:

What can cause a manual reading on an ovo smart meter (when you press number 9) to be different to the smart readings ovo are receiving? 

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Hopefully I will get  a response from someone who knows about the meters.

In the mean time, if you have any idea why the meter is different please let me know below. I’ve researched online for hours but not been able to find anything.

Firedog
FiredogBest Answer
Super User
Jun 21, 2023 7:46 AM UTC

Updated on 14/10/26 by Abby_OVO

 

[I have a Liberty 110]

At some stage, some consumption (2750.4 kWh) was recorded on Register 02. You’d have to go back through all the available meter readings (400 days worth) to see whether you can spot when that stopped happening. The other figures you see are

Standing Charge 50.300 p/day
R01 rate 32.390 p/kWh
R02 rate 0.000  p/kWh

 

So, this meter appears to have been set up for E7 but later reconfigured for single rate by simply diverting all usage to the one register. R01 is usually ‘Peak’ rate, but not necessarily. Incidentally, your rates are identical to mine.

 

The R02 register is showing an historical figure dating back to when the meter was configured for E7, and current usage is only recorded on R01. It’s odd, but that’s why the readings you see online are different from your Button 9 reading, which includes the obsolete figure from R02. Your current billing will be accurate. 

 

You will most probably have been charged for the 2750.4kWh a long time ago, so you’d have to check your old bills to see that. If you can’t see any appropriate charge, that usage is most likely to have taken place more than a year ago, in which case its cost will be written off. So I think you’re safe from any unexpected bill regardless of what happens when the meter is exchanged.

 

In my amateur opinion, the meter is working as expected and recording consumption as it’s been configured to. The problem seems only to be the intermittent transmission of data to OVO. Has the meter been enrolled and adopted (‘E&A’) on to the DCC system?  To check, enter its MPAN into this tool: smartmetercheck.citizensadvice.org.uk Because meters on DCC use a different way of communicating with the outside world, it could well be that the problem would change at E&A, with no way of knowing whether it would get better or worse.

 

If you can access your account on a computer, I’d be happy to help you do a little forensic analysis to try and find out where the R02 reading came from.

 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |

41 replies

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
Jul 19, 2023 8:34 AM UTC

Hey @vegas22,

 

I’d advise leaving the aerial where it initially was placed by the engineer, waiting 6 weeks (the timeframe it takes to update meter details following an exchange), then if it’s not in communication complete a ‘smart meter health check’ this will be picked up by our team of experts who will look into this and decide next steps. I wouldn’t advise putting it outside even if you make a box, it may be unsafe. 

 

In the meantime once the meter serial number has updated online to show the new meter, submit meter readings manually to ensure you are billed correctly. 

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vegas22Author
Rank 2
Jul 23, 2023 10:11 AM UTC

@Emmanuelle_OVO thank you for your help. 6 weeks is quite a long time. I'm desperate to get this all up and running so I can leave ovo. Whilst the forum support is good and helpful, yet again ovo haven't returned my call / call back as promised. They really are a shocking company to deal with directly.

Emmanuelle_OVO
Retired Moderator
Retired Moderator
Jul 24, 2023 2:46 PM UTC

Hey @vegas22,

 

Sorry for the issues you’re having,

 

It sounds like the issue you have is poor signal in your area, I don’t know that this issue would necessarily be resolved by switching to a new provider. 

 

There is always the option of raising a complaint if you feel there has been a issue with the customer service you’ve received. There is more information on this on our website.

 

I hope the issues with your meter get resolved soon. 

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Jeffus
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Jul 24, 2023 3:13 PM UTC

@vegas22

I think  ovo should have already logged a complaint on 14/06 as you mentioned including the complaint email address. 

I think the Ombudsman would probably accept this. 

So I would assume 8 weeks from 14/06 and then approach the Ombudsman if the issue still isn't resolved. 

https://www.ombudsman-services.org/sectors/energy

I would ask ovo for a reference number for your complaint and the name of your complaint handler. 

I would then provide your ovo  complaint handler a link to this thread

https://forum.ovoenergy.com/smart-meters-136/smart-meter-manual-reading-different-to-smart-reading-15310?postid=96118#post96118

Personally I would give up trying to resolve this outside the formal complaint process now. 

vegas22Author
Rank 2
Jul 27, 2023 2:00 PM UTC

Ive sent another e-mail today to complaints@ovoenergy.com and assuming this isn’t resolved before the 8 weeks is up, I will reach out to the Ombudsman to see if they can force ovo to actually act like a proper company and fix what really are simple common problems.

 

On a side note, I now can’t see any meter readings in my account and I can’t alter my monthly direct debit which is now set to £246 a month (currently £602 in credit and counting!) When I try to change it, it says :

Good to know that my DD needs to be between 246 and some number that can not be loaded! 🙄

@Emmanuelle_OVO The signal is the issue but only in the house, outside the house is fine. Problem is switching providers has been impossible for over 4 years due to ovo not fixing the meter issue. 

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
Jul 27, 2023 2:02 PM UTC

The maximum permitted DD amount per month is something like £2,000 iirc. Hardly anyone would be on that level mind you.

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Jeffus
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Jul 27, 2023 3:02 PM UTC

Ive sent another e-mail today to complaints@ovoenergy.com and assuming this isn’t resolved before the 8 weeks is up, I will reach out to the Ombudsman to see if they can force ovo to actually act like a proper company and fix what really are simple common problems.

 

On a side note, I now can’t see any meter readings in my account and I can’t alter my monthly direct debit which is now set to £246 a month (currently £602 in credit and counting!) When I try to change it, it says :

Good to know that my DD needs to be between 246 and some number that can not be loaded! 🙄

@Emmanuelle_OVO The signal is the issue but only in the house, outside the house is fine. Problem is switching providers has been impossible for over 4 years due to ovo not fixing the meter issue. 

I haven't read all the posts. 

If you want a refund of some or all of your credit while you wait for OVO to address your complaint then you can call ovo collections and ask for 100% of your credit to be refunded under the ofgem rules if you are on the Variable tariff. May be best not to take it all. 

0800 0699 831

Am not sure if you have tried anything like that. You mentioned being with OVO for over  4 years so I assume you get the 5% interest reward tax free on any credit balance up to £1000.

vegas22Author
Rank 2
Aug 7, 2023 1:37 PM UTC

@Jeffus “ 4 years so I assume you get the 5% interest reward tax free on any credit balance up to £1000.” That’s correct. 

I’ve emailed ovo several more times (sent on 27th July) regarding this and even provided them a link to this forum thread but got no reply! (even with the complaints email CC in).

Currently on live chat with them to get my £593.95 credit returned so I can move to another company and be done with OVO. Shame as they were good at one point. I asked the live chat agent if they had got my e-mail, they said they had but it had not been assigned anyone yet! 

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
Aug 7, 2023 1:39 PM UTC

If you’re leaving a supplier, it’s not recommended to do a refund just before you go. It’s best to leave the credit where it is so that you can automatically pay the final bill from the credit balance - the rest will be returned to you automatically after that.

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vegas22Author
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Aug 7, 2023 1:44 PM UTC

@Blastoise186 thanks for the heads up but there’s no way I trust ovo to refund me! I’d rather owe them money and pay the balance manually than rely on them refunding me.