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November 15, 2023
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Replacing my existing storage heaters with new and hopefully more efficient ones!

  • November 15, 2023
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Last year OVO replaced my two meters with a new single meter - Aclara SGM1415-B - and, so far so good, everything seems to work fine.

I would like to replace my existing storage heaters with new and hopefully more efficient ones - the old ones are over 30 years old so there must have been some improvement since then, also they’re getting very tatty and I’m getting earache about their appearance…

Anyway, I’ve been looking at the Dimplex Quantum HHR range but noticed that they need a 24 hour supply.

My present setup is two fuse boards, one for the economy 7 and a second one for everything else.

Am I going to need to get these rewired or even replaced?
 

thanks guys

Best answer by Firedog

Updated on 03/04/25 by Ben_OVO

I too have Quantum storage heaters running on an Economy 7 tariff. Of course, there are many variants of heater model and wiring arrangement, so it’s difficult to make concrete suggestions.

I suspect that your second Consumer Unit (the current name for what we used to call fusebox) is connected to the fifth terminal on your meter, which should then be configured to switch on and off according to your Economy 7 hours. But from what I can make out from the Dimplex documentation, it’s possible to have two supplies to the heater - one switched for E7, the other ‘always on’. There has to be power to the heater all the time for both the controls and for the fan that blows warm air out when you need it. This also makes it possible to ‘boost’ the heater’s output, for example if it runs out of steam in the evening when you most need it (any electricity used in this case will be charged at the peak rate). 

So, it should be possible to wire up your new heaters as you want them to be without having to replace the CU. 

I assume your present heaters are switching on and off as you expect them to; some users with newly-installed smart meters found that this wasn’t happening, meaning that OVO’s metering people had to wave a magic wand to get the system working.

 


A note about E7 tariffs: the way this works with OVO is that all usage in the offpeak period is charged at the cheap rate, while all other usage is charged at the higher rate. That’s why it’s a good idea to run power-hungry beasts like washing machines, tumble driers and dishwashers at night. If you can’t program appliances like this to finish their cycle before 07:00, say, just plug them into timer switches that are off all day and switch on only after the offpeak period has started. 

If you’re thinking of of swapping your storage heaters out for panel heaters, or making any other energy saving upgrades in your home, you may be able to find a grant to help you. For advice on what appliances might be best for you, try doing a quick google search of ‘energy saving advice in (your local area). You may find your council are open for this advice, and also there may be energy saving advice bodies / charities set up in your locality. 

 

 

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BPLightlog
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Super User
November 15, 2023

So, if I’ve finally got my head straight; 

 

I can connect the HHR radiators to the existing economy 7 points but I will also need a separate supply going to each one to power them during the day?

Yes and as Firedog mentioned, that’s often the way they’re wired to enable both a boost circuit and the fan during the day

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Firedog
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November 16, 2023

Is that what’s called Dithering ??
 

I’m not sure whether it’s called that, but it is a dithering mechanism - introducing a random factor to ensure that a lot of events that would otherwise happen at exactly the same time or in the same place don’t. 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
BPLightlog
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November 16, 2023

Some do call it dithering although the term was meant to be used to prevent a communication overload … from the smartme.Co.Uk site

 

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December 4, 2023

So, if I’ve got this right the system is now configured to simply switch tariffs at the appropriate time?

all consumption between midnight and 07:00 (?) being charged at the lower rate regardless of circuit?

Firedog
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Super User
December 4, 2023

all consumption between midnight and 07:00 (?) …

 

The timings vary across the nations and regions, because they’re set by the DNO. You should be able to see the ones that apply to you on your Plan page (near the bottom). 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |