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Best answer by Chris_OVO

Updated on 05/12/25 by Abby_OVO

 

Hey @awills61

 

I found another thread which might be helpful in giving the answers you’re looking for:

 

The E10 times are listed as:

 

Economy 10

 

Economy 10 provides 10 hours of off-peak electricity for everything in the home and can be suitable for a number of electric heating systems, including wet electric central heating and storage heaters. Storage heaters will automatically store at the off-peak times on the lower rate.

 

Electric immersion water heaters will also usually heat automatically during the off-peak hours and you may want to install an external timer to regulate when and for how long the water heats.  The off-peak hours offered with an Economy 10 plan add up to 10 hours during each 24-hour period – which is why this plan is known as Economy 10. 

 

(MPAN) 10,11,12, 14,15,16,19,20, 21, 22, 23

(Traditional, Pay as you go & Smart)

12.00am - 5.00am 1.00pm - 4.00pm 8.00pm - 10.00pm (GMT)

1.00am - 6.00am 2.00pm - 5.00pm 9.00pm - 11.00pm (BST)

 

18 & 13

(Traditional)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:00pm - 4:00pm 8:30pm - 12:30am

 

(Paygo & Smart)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:00pm - 4:00pm 8:30pm - 12:30am (GMT)

5:30am - 8:30am 2:00pm - 5:00pm 9:30pm - 01:30am (BST)

 

17

(Traditional)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:30pm - 4:30pm 8:30pm - 12:30am

 

(Pay as you go and Smart)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:30pm - 4:30pm 8:30pm - 12:30am (GMT)

5:30am - 8:30am 2:30pm - 5:30pm 9:30pm - 01:30am (BST)

 

Let us know if this helps 😊

27 replies

BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
October 28, 2024

 

... My guess is that they’ve been put on the plan that has (GMT:!0) offpeak times “All days 0000-0500, 1300-1600, 2000-2200”, shifting with BST. I’ll be happy to be proved wrong!

That is my understanding 

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Firedog
Super User
Super User
October 28, 2024

That is my understanding 
 

Do you have any evidence for this? I’d love to see it!

There is also the question of the meter’s randomized offset, which could theoretically be 30 minutes. So a customer who sees his tariff change at ~13:30 might be seeing a change nominally timed for 13:00. ALCS load switching might be set to different times, just to confuse matters even more, e.g. if a customer is relying on the IHD’s red traffic light to tell him when the switch happens.

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BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
October 28, 2024

That is my understanding 
 

Do you have any evidence for this? I’d love to see it!

I don’t unfortunately although logically that should be the case. 

There is also the question of the meter’s randomized offset, which could theoretically be 30 minutes. So a customer who sees his tariff change at ~13:30 might be seeing a change nominally timed for 13:00. ALCS load switching might be set to different times, just to confuse matters even more, e.g. if a customer is relying on the IHD’s red traffic light to tell him when the switch happens.

Yes, that does complicate things but that’s why the separate circuit switch should automate everything connected to it while needing a visual alert for external circuits 

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Chris_OVO
Community Manager
Chris_OVOSolved
Community Manager
November 5, 2024

Updated on 05/12/25 by Abby_OVO

 

Hey @awills61

 

I found another thread which might be helpful in giving the answers you’re looking for:

 

The E10 times are listed as:

 

Economy 10

 

Economy 10 provides 10 hours of off-peak electricity for everything in the home and can be suitable for a number of electric heating systems, including wet electric central heating and storage heaters. Storage heaters will automatically store at the off-peak times on the lower rate.

 

Electric immersion water heaters will also usually heat automatically during the off-peak hours and you may want to install an external timer to regulate when and for how long the water heats.  The off-peak hours offered with an Economy 10 plan add up to 10 hours during each 24-hour period – which is why this plan is known as Economy 10. 

 

(MPAN) 10,11,12, 14,15,16,19,20, 21, 22, 23

(Traditional, Pay as you go & Smart)

12.00am - 5.00am 1.00pm - 4.00pm 8.00pm - 10.00pm (GMT)

1.00am - 6.00am 2.00pm - 5.00pm 9.00pm - 11.00pm (BST)

 

18 & 13

(Traditional)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:00pm - 4:00pm 8:30pm - 12:30am

 

(Paygo & Smart)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:00pm - 4:00pm 8:30pm - 12:30am (GMT)

5:30am - 8:30am 2:00pm - 5:00pm 9:30pm - 01:30am (BST)

 

17

(Traditional)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:30pm - 4:30pm 8:30pm - 12:30am

 

(Pay as you go and Smart)

4:30am - 7:30am 1:30pm - 4:30pm 8:30pm - 12:30am (GMT)

5:30am - 8:30am 2:30pm - 5:30pm 9:30pm - 01:30am (BST)

 

Let us know if this helps 😊

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Rank 4
April 1, 2025

I thought the E10 times in my area were:

04.30 - 07.30

13.30 - 16.30

20.30 - 00.30

and fixed for both BST and GMT.

Since Sunday (after the BST switch) the times are running an hour later i.e. 05.30 to 08.30 etc.

(I can tell the switching times from the socket light on my storage heaters).

Was my original assumption of fixed times for BST and GMT wrong or have OVO failed to make the time switch?

 

 

Rank 4
April 1, 2025

PS - MPAN starts with 17.

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
April 1, 2025

Hi ​@Sandy42 ,

Most Smart Meters don’t adjust between GMT and BST and remain on GMT the entire year. What you’re seeing is intended behaviour. You’ll still be charged correctly though.

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Rank 4
April 1, 2025

Thanks Blastoise - but I don’t quite get it. If my storage heaters are now charging between 05.30 and 08.30 and the “cheap rate” is 04.30 to 07.30 then I’m being charged the expensive rate for the last hour. 

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
April 1, 2025

Nope. You’ll be charged the cheap rate during all charging as that will be factored in.

Let OVO Support know if something doesn’t seem right and they’ll check

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Rank 4
April 1, 2025

or is my cheap rate now moved to 05.30-08.30?