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Power Move Flex Results for 18th Jan, 12:00AM to 01:00AM

  • January 22, 2025
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I have two questions:

  1. 18th Jan, 12:00AM to 01:00AM - Surely this time period is nonsense? Was it supposed to be 00:00AM to 01:00AM ie. midnight to 1am or 12:00AM to 01:00PM ie. first hour of the afternoon. I assumed it meant the first hour of the afternoon.
     
  2. If it was the first hour of the afternoon when I had my washing machine and dishwasher going, then I shifted at least 1kWh over my normal usage so should have received £0.15 instead of £0.00.

Can someone confirm what is going on.

 

Thanks

 

    Best answer by Blastoise186

    Updated on 15/01/25 by Ben_OVO

     

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    Event timings confirmed by the team - midnight to 1am was the trigger.

    Your feedback has been sent to the team however, it’s on the official roadmap to make this a LOT more obvious.

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    Peter E
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    Peter ESuper User
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    January 22, 2025

    You just have to remember that 12am is midnight and 12pm is midday. It’s common usage in a lot of situations so even if OVO change there are lots of other companies and organisations that use these recognised forms of stating time in the 12 hour format. You could start using the 24 hour clock, eg. 00:00 - 01:00 but not everyone is able to cope with the fact that 16:00 hrs is 4pm and easily think of it as 6pm if they don't pay too much attention.

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      Blastoise186
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      Blastoise186Super User
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      January 22, 2025

      Plus if you’re in the Fire Service (like I am!) things get even more complicated. Some parts of the service even use formats like 0100 hours because that’s just how they do things

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      Firedog
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      January 22, 2025

      … you’ll be amazed just how much IT Admin stuff does so ...
        

      IT has been USA-centric for most of its existence. That doesn’t mean to say we have to follow American practice all the time. We haven’t ever to my knowledge resorted to using 9/11 to mean 11th September, and most Britons will read a date like that as 9th November. 

      12am is meaningless as Duncan and I have repeatedly pointed out. 12 o’clock can be both am and pm, but in both cases it literally means midnight. Perhaps the PM people could be persuaded to use the 24-hour clock like most other British systems where it removes all doubt, like train and plane times and TV schedules.

      Still, it’s a bit far-fetched to assume that the invitation mistakenly stated 1:00 AM when they meant 1:00 PM.

       

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      mikes01666
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      January 22, 2025

      To avoid any confusion between 12 am/pm or midnight/midday, timing slots should start at 23.59 or 00.01. 

      Eradicates any misunderstandings.

      And yes, learn to use the 24 hour clock.

      BPLightlog
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      BPLightlogSuper User
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      January 23, 2025

      Whilst I have always understood 12am to be midnight and 12pm midday, I realise that many people are totally confused by the usage. 
      I recently saw an explanation from NPL (the National Physics Laboratory) which I think is very good and which should be followed 
       

       

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        Firedog
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        FiredogSuper User
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        January 23, 2025

        I nearly posted that very page myself, but decided that it would only serve to confuse the issue. In fact, it does the opposite and points out the pitfalls of what the PM team use. The same applies elsewhere in the OVOsphere, e.g. on account Usage pages. It’s as if they assume that energy consumers don’t understand the 24-hour clock. 

        I can’t help thinking that 11am must necessarily be one hour earlier than 12am, just as 10am is one hour earlier than 11am. 

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