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What's the biggest impact changes I can make to my usage to help me hit my Power Move target?

What's the biggest impact changes I can make to my usage to help me hit my Power Move target?

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We have worked very hard to use only lights and make the odd cup of tea during the peak hours. I am not happy that we did not qualify for this month. How are others managing to do this? Has anyone actually achieved this target?

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Has anyone actually achieved this target?

 

Yes, thousands.

I wonder if the forum mods could find out just (a) how many are participating in this quarter’s challenge, and (b) how many of them achieved one or other of the targets in January. 

Those of us who took part in the autumn challenge were told that the accumulated shift (energy that might otherwise have been used in the 4-7 PM period) amounted to 570MWh, but not how many customers were involved.

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Hi @SiSi, can I ask what your total peak hours electricity usage for the month was, as a percentage of your total electricity weekday usage?
 

You understand that I’m not enquiring what your actual total kWh (“units”) usage was for either peak hours or for weekday usage, but rather the proportion of one to t’other, which is how Power Move is calculated.

If you’re only using lights and the occasional cuppa during peak hours, I admire your fortitude! Mind you, the odd cuppa can be hard on electricity consumption…and it also depends on what your usage is on weekdays outside that key 4 - 7 segment. 
 

As @Firedog says, loads of folk do attain the target and there are plenty on here who’re delighted to offer suggestions and ideas…don’t give up yet!  And of course, Power Move is not practical for everyone, but it sounds to me as though you’ve got your Peak Hours consumption well down….

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Has anyone actually achieved this target?

 

Yes, thousands.

I wonder if the forum mods could find out just (a) how many are participating in this quarter’s challenge, and (b) how many of them achieved one or other of the targets in January. 

Those of us who took part in the autumn challenge were told that the accumulated shift (energy that might otherwise have been used in the 4-7 PM period) amounted to 570MWh, but not how many customers were involved.

 

I’ll ask the question 🙂

So every month I don’t hit target for discounts as I only have tv and freezer fridge on and everything else is off it is impossible to reduce my usage!!! Big con 

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So every month I don’t hit target for discounts as I only have tv and freezer fridge on and everything else is off it is impossible to reduce my usage!!! Big con 

It isn't a con it just a scheme that isnt suitable for everyone. If you are a low user then it probably isn't for you. If you are a average to higher user you just need to make sure you use high usage appliances during the week away from the 4-7 period.

No scheme will suit all, there are many different companies offering different schemes that might be better for some.

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As many people have said on here under the many Power Move conversations it is about MOVING your usage from the peak period, 4pm-7pm, to another time during a weekday. It’s not a con as I understand what is required and I’ve managed to reduce my usage during the peak to about 7-8% for every month since September last year by moving my heavy usage OUTSIDE of the weekday peak to another time on a weekday. Some people try moving their heavy usage to the weekend but this doesn’t help. Some people don’t have any heavy usage to move and for that reason it could be impossible for them to achieve the target in any practical way.

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It's not a con.

Some people don't ever use much energy so don't have the opportunity to move it. In some ways they are lucky.

Others like me use quite a bit of power all the time, but the peak time for others is not my peak time so I also do not have the opportunity to move it unless I start switching critical stuff off, and I'm not doing that.

Some things in life are not fair. Like Solar Power, it's free when the sun is out, but not at night. If you only use electricity at night then solar power is not for you. Unless you have a battery to store it  😀

 

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@TonyC I agree with a couple of comments. Solar power can make it more difficult to achieve the Power Move target as it supplies power mainly out of the peak thereby making the in-peak usage look correspondingly larger. A battery, on the other hand, can supply power in the peak period and help you meet the target that way.

 

Even better you could charge the battery out of peak (cloudy days or during the winter) to use in-peak because that helps you both ways to meet the target. In that sense it would be doing exactly what the Grid is trying to achieve; storing energy outside the peak to use in the peak.

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If you are really that mithered by this, one thing you could do is use a plug in timer that turns off the fridge and freezer at 16:00 and turns them back on at 19:00. If you are away and there is nothing else running, then the power consumption will drop to zero for the three hours which means it has to be at least 10% for that period when compared with the rest of the day. If you are not there and the fridge and freezer doors are shut, then the heat gain on the fridge and freezer will be insignificant. If you use some thing like a Tapo plug in unit which measures consumption and can be used as a timed unit. You can see what’s going on and do it remotely. It does mean that you will have to leave your internet router on, but that will consume very little. It’s really a question of how much saving £15 a month is worth to you in terms of effort.

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Interesting point concerning the fridge. I wonder if it really makes any difference whether it's on or off for the 3 hours. If it's off then will it use up any energy saved when its turned back on again, or more likely, if it's left on but the door not opened, then it shouldn't need to switch itself on during the three hours. Same logic for a freezer. During power cuts my fridge and freezer stay cold for hours, but they are good ones (Neff).

One day I might experiment with my plug in power monitor. But at my age, life is too short.

 

I do wish people would read and understand what Power move is about before rushing into print and,quite frankly, looking a bit silly. As does switching off a freezer for 3 hours when it's unlikely to use power anyway!!

We really tried to get our usage down between 4 and 7 but have always been just outside the % required. We have a couple from Ukraine who live in our annexe so we can't tell how much they are using. Also we have solar panels which generate most of the power we use in the morning so have now given up. We always do our washing either in the morning or overnight (economy 7) and have stopped using the oven between 4 and 7. Not much else we could do.

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It is a good point to make about the fridge/freezer

Your fridge/freezer may use up to 100 Watts when it's running- but it isn't running constantly.

How many minutes in each hour does it actually run? That depends on what's in there, what the room temperature is, how often you open the door, etc.

Mine is a very old one and uses 95W when it kicks in, it runs for about 10 minutes each hour if I'm not opening the door (and makes a noise about it while running, did I mention it's pretty old?) 0.095×10/60 = 0.016 kWh.

A newer one should use even less than that.

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A comment about lighter evenings and warmer spring days:

  1. This month (May), I can just about manage without switching any lights on at all until 9PM. And I’ve not missed not switching the television on until 10PM. This whittles away at my peak-hour usage.
  2. On the minus side, warmer days and nights have meant that two changes in behaviour militate against meeting the PM target:
      
    1. I’ve managed without switching on the 2kW fan heater to defrost the bathroom before having a shower. It’s not as comfortable as I’d like yet,
        
        
      … but this makes a big dent in my offpeak usage.
        
    2. For the first time this year, I’ve tried getting into bed without having used the electric blanket to pre-condition it. The shock soon wears off, but again it cuts down my offpeak consumption.

These measures are good for my monthly bill, but they mean I have to try a bit harder to be sure of staying under the ceiling. My April result was 5.86%; so far this month, it’s crept up to 6.61% having peaked at 7.73%.

  
Moral: make sure that spring/summer reductions in offpeak (and therefore total) usage don’t increase the peak/total ratio too much.  
 

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