Hello, I have a very old imperial meter made by Parkinson Cowan (Ser/ No S512290) that works in ft2. Would someone kindly help with the conversion to kwh please. I also would like to know if it measures in ft2 or 100ft2. This is an image, many thanks.
Ok so it’s measuring in cubic feet (ft3) the reading on the dial is 4974 (ignore the Red figure) and the calculations are like this (posted on your bill)
So the extra piece to understand is the x 2.83 along with the others to get kWh. If the previous reading was 4874 for example the difference is 100 so the calculation would be:
100 x 2.83 x calorific value (typically 39) x 1.02264
The result is then divided by 3.6 to get kwh
Remember that the calorific value varies so that figure can change (and does).
The calculation above is shown on your monthly statements, which can be viewed on your app and online account by following the guide below:
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Hi . I also have an imperial gas meter and have been attempting to double check my gas calculations. I have a question regarding the calorific value to use in the calculation formula. I used the web link on my bill to find the calorific value report in order to obtain a value to do my sums. However, as the calorific values change on a daily basis then I have 2 questions to ask: Is OVO using the value for the South East or Southern to work out my bill? I live in Chichester (West Sussex). And what date is it using to get the calorific value? My meter readings are due on the 19th day of each month so is that the date I should be using?
Please advise because if you don’t know the region or the date for the calorific value then you get different answers when you do the calculation.
Hi @newjerseyminx , we won’t be able to check your region as no one here has access to your account but it should be in the data from National Grid somewhere. The daily cv values are used rather than just a specific days value so it’s a little more complicated
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Hi. Many thanks for that. I have just emailed the National Grid to seek clarification on the region that West Sussex falls into. I have also found an interesting document online from Ofgem that suggests that energy suppliers are provided with what is an average of all the daily calorific values for them to use for billing purposes (see link)
So I am supposing that OVO should be able to tell me exactly what calorific figure they’ve used to calculate my bill because its probably entered into the computer system they use to generate bills.. Perhaps it would be handy for them to include the specific calorific value on a bill then customers would have all the relevant data to hand.
Hi. Many thanks for that. I have just emailed the National Grid to seek clarification on the region that West Sussex falls into. I have also found an interesting document online from Ofgem that suggests that energy suppliers are provided with what is an average of all the daily calorific values for them to use for billing purposes (see link)
So I am supposing that OVO should be able to tell me exactly what calorific figure they’ve used to calculate my bill because its probably entered into the computer system they use to generate bills.. Perhaps it would be handy for them to include the specific calorific value on a bill then customers would have all the relevant data to hand.
Okay so for everyone’s info I emailed National Grid and they’ve confirmed that SGN are the gas distributors covering West Sussex are and that I come under the Local Distribution Zone area SO which I’m assuming means Southern. They’ve directed me to this link https://mip-prd-web.azurewebsites.net/DataItemExplorer and if you look under Calorific Values and search for your LDZ zone then you can search for all the calorific values that fall with specific date ranges. I’ve now reached out to SGN to find out more info on how to use the data shown in this report in order to search for the calorific value that may have been used to calculation conversion to KWH on my bill. If nothing else, I’m certainly learning a lot about stuff I’d never even thought about before.
Hi @elsa if they want 5 digits just put a zero in front. It’s just the difference between the new reading and the old that’s important and used for the bill. There’s usually a red digit at the end which is not used. If you post a photo somebody can check .. something like this
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Just another thought on this, if you’re looking at the kWh figure, this will be quite different having gone through a few calculations. It shows this on you bill
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You should probably record the reading with a photo if you can showing the serial number as well. Send this to them and you could start a complaint as well
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Can anyone please please please translate SSE/OVO gas prices into a price per imperial kilowatt?
It’d be really useful to have this pre and post ‘the price hike’.
When we moved to our current house in Oct 2020 we provided an initial reading in iKW and it’s caused no end of trouble.
We just want to know how much gas we’ve used in iKW and how much that gas cost at the time so we can compare what we should have paid them, with what we’ve actually paid them.