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THTC meter - Removal Request

  • January 10, 2024
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Hi folks,

 

I am trying to have a redundant THTC meter removed from my house and OVO seem to be refusing to do this. Can anyone help explain what I should do? Some background info below:

 

We moved to a property in March last year in the west of Scotland. The property has two meters with a THTC setup running storage heaters. We are getting the storage heaters removed in February and an air source heat pump installed. 

 

Once this work has been carried out there will be nothing running from the RadioTelemeter (THTC) meter.

 

I have contacted OVO by phone yesterday to request that this meter be removed once it is no longer in use. The person I spoke with said that OVO would not do this because doing so would stop the other (ordinary) meter working. They weren’t able to explain why this would be the case. After some time on the phone I was told that if I emailed OVO with evidence that the THTC meter would not powering anything then they could arrange for it to be removed. This seemed like a positive outcome although it was not clear why we were initially told in the call that removal wasn’t possible.

 

I sent an email last night attaching the quotes from our electrician and heating engineer for removal of storage heaters and replacement with heat pump etc. I got a positive response this morning:

I am Stephen from account management at OVO energy after reading your email we can go ahead and do that for you but i am going to give you extra information so to proceed with this job there is a charge due to the nature of it I would like to clarify that your okay with that and if you are i can go ahead and get you a price and and book the job for you.

 

Again this seemed positive and I asked Stephen to go ahead and give us a cost. I then had response email from Nahim:

Apologies for the confusion form what Stephan said but as of right now, appointments for removing THTC meters aren't available. We appreciate you gave us confirmation the property's heating system is no longer dependant.

However we are working on a new meter type that'll basically replace the current two meters and you'll get one meter. The meter will reveal at Spring and you'll get an email when your free meter upgrade is ready

 

As far as I understand it the ‘new meter type’ mentioned has been in development for years and has been repeatedly delayed. I have little to no confidence that it will arrive in spring as promised above. It isn’t clear why we should be expected to wait for this.

 

Ontop of that our experience from speaking to neighbours and friends locally is that smart meters are useless in this (rural) area since they are not able to connect to a radio mast for communication. Any smart meters fitted simply operate as ‘dumb’ meters in this area.

 

Can anyone give us some hope that it is possible to get the redundant THTC meter removed as we have requested? Is there any technical reason why this wouldn’t be possible?

 

Failing that at least any good reason why we should have to wait for the new meter to be developed and rolled out? It seems in this instance that whilst waiting we’d have headaches if we wanted to switch supplier etc because we’d have a strange setup with a redundant meter and two MPAN numbers associated with the property. This could go on indefinitely since the new meters are not yet launched.

 

Below is a photograph of our current setup incase this is useful:

 

 

We’d really appreciate any help on this!

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Best answer by Nukecad

They may well ask for consumer feedback later; once those initial proposals have been refined by industry discussions.

However at the moment that isn’t what they want or need.

So it’s best not to clog up their email with unwanted stuff that just takes up their time to deal with.
(There’s a word we all use for unwanted emails - spam).

Wait and see if they do ask for consumer feedback/opinion, but TBH there may not be time.
The clock is counting down and contingency plans need to be in place for when it reaches zero in June.

240 replies

Newcomer
March 25, 2025

Holy Moly

Just spoken to Ovo asking for an update, given I live in a no-WAN area.
Apparently, I’ll likely be given a reconditioned clockwork meter configured for E10.

No smart functionality at all.

And here was me thinking this was the 21st Century.

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
March 25, 2025

Basically all EV Tariffs (and add-on type stuff like Charge Anytime) across the entire market all require fully communicating Smart Meters, sorry.

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Newcomer
April 4, 2025

After the direct intervention of my MSP, Ovo called me today to arrange a date to install a 4g smart meter in my home in the Highlands.

I’m told they use the o2 network, and were only approved for use in Scotland 4 days ago.

I’ll update on progress next week...

Ben_OVO
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 7, 2025

Morning ​@monster9, I hope you had a good weekend.

 

Thanks for the update - that’s a positive turn of events! Fingers crossed the installation goes smoothly, and they commission the meter so that it’s ‘in comms’ and sends readings to us. You can find more about smart meters on our website here, and I’ll link some helpful Forum topics below that you might like to read through. If you could let us know how the appointment goes we’d appreciate it! 

 

 

Cheers!

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Newcomer
April 7, 2025

@Ben_OVO Less than 24hrs after appointment confirmed - it’s been cancelled.
No explanation as to why.

Well done Ovo!!

Ben_OVO
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 7, 2025

@monster9 I’m sorry to hear that, that’s so frustrating 😤. Please get back in touch with our Support Team when you can, they’ll be able to see what happened, and check when they can get you booked in again.

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Newcomer
April 7, 2025

@Ben_OVO I did that and have received an email stating that I’ve raised a complaint.

I didn’t ask to raise a complaint.

What I wanted to do was talk to the advisor James who set up the appointment in the first place, given he set up the appointment in response to a direct request from Kate Forbes MSP - on my behalf.

But Hey ho. It appears even the Deputy First Minister of Scotland is treated appallingly by Ovo.

Ben_OVO
Community Manager
Community Manager
April 8, 2025

Morning ​@monster9,

 

To confirm, James is a Complaint Handler, and a complaint would have been raised, even if you didn’t ask for one, because of the shortfall in service. This is correct process - we’d treat this as a complaint and log it this way because of the appointment being booked and then cancelled without you requesting this. The involvement of an MSP would also mean this would have been escalated internally.

 

I’m sorry to hear about everything that’s happened here, but it being logged as a complaint should mean you’ll have one point of contact, and it should be easier to get resolved than it would be if you were calling into the Support Team and speaking to a different Advisor each time. Keep us updated on your progress, I hope they can sort something for you soon. 🤞

 

 

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Firedog
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Super User
April 8, 2025

I’m told they use the o2 network, and were only approved for use in Scotland 4 days ago.
 

@monster9 I’d be really interested to hear how you learned this. I can’t find anything about this approval anywhere.

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April 8, 2025

@Firedog this info was conveyed to me by the Senior Advisor I spoke to.
I’m told that O2 won the competitive tender.

There’s also chat elsewhere about the cellular solution being proposed for Shetland.