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PalsyP
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May 13, 2024
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Should I change tariffs?

  • May 13, 2024
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My contract is ending in August. I’m paying £236/m for both E&G albeit was £173/m for months due to asking to cap my DD at that, hence why I’m in debit of £366…… Can’t really afford £236/m anyway but have no choice….

My electric is 33p p/h (43p SC);

My gas is 10p p/h (30p SC)

This month’s bill is £188…..

Not sure what is going on, hardly use any gas, mainly electric..

I can’t even pay off this £366 debit by card due to paying via DD, which is stupid….

My (smart) electric meter tells me I’m paying an avg 23pp/h (700kw/h).

Is it worth me looking for deals elsewhere these days?

Best answer by Firedog

Updated on 14/07/26 by Ben_OVO

It looks as if you fixed at the wrong time: those prices are much higher than current standard variable ones. On your Plan page, you should see what the exit fee is for ending your contract early, and on the Renewal page you can see whether there’s a plan that fits at a lower price. If you see the 1-year Loyalty fixed rate plan, that is quite attractive at the moment.

You have a couple of choices: 

  1. Wait a few more weeks: sometime after 13 June, you should be able to switch to a different plan without having to pay the exit fee. This ‘free period’ starts 7 weeks before the contract end date. 
  2. Do your sums, estimating your consumption of electricity and gas between now and the end of your contract, then working out what this would cost on your current tariff and on a different one that takes your fancy. If the difference is more than the exit fee, you’d be better off switching now.

The Direct Debit calculator will be working out how much it expects you to use up to the end of the contract and what that would cost. It then adds on your negative balance and divides the result by the number of payments left in the contract period. That’s why it’s so high at the moment: you only have a couple of months in which to pay off that debt. If you switched to a different plan, I think you’ll find that the debt would be discounted over the period of the new one (if you fixed again) or over the next 10 months (to 31 March) if you opted for the variable tariff. This would bring your Direct Debit down significantly.

 

You should always be able to make a card payment even though you usually pay by Direct Debit. 

 

If I were in your shoes, I’d:

(a) use any spare cash I had lying around to make a card payment to bring the debt down. Only if it’s really spare, though: you don’t normally pay interest on debt to OVO, but you would if you overdrew your bank account to pay it off.

(b) switch now to the 1 Year Fixed Loyalty - 09/05/2024 tariff unless the exit fee makes this unattractive. This offer may not be around much longer.

 

 

17 replies

Rank 5
June 8, 2024

@Firedog This is my current plan, it's the variable simpler energy economy 7 and this is with the VAT added

And this is the One that's been offered to my which also includes the VAT.

 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
June 8, 2024

OK. What about the other things I asked about?

The only difference, then, is in the standing charge. There’s no way of knowing how this will change between now and a year hence, but we do know that for Standard Variable Tariffs (like Simpler Energy) it will remain more or less unchanged until 1 October. The offer you’re seeing would save you up to £76 a year in standing charges.

The unit costs are another matter completely. We’re going to see a fall next month, of about 9½% on average, but then rates are widely expected to rise again on 1 October, possibly by 15% or more. Time to dig out your crystal ball.  

 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Rank 5
June 8, 2024

Hi @Firedog is this what you were asking about ?

 

Rank 5
June 8, 2024

 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
June 8, 2024

That helps! We can see that your usage over the past year has been:

 

 

31/05/24

31/05/23

Difference

Offpeak

11855.500

8973.950

2881.550

Peak

18179.550

17106.600

1072.950

 

 

Total

3954.500

 

Your offpeak usage was 2881.550/3954.500 = 73% of the total. This means that Economy 7 is working well for you, saving a lot when compared with what you would pay on a single-rate tariff.

The cost of fuel at current rates would be:

 

 

Units

Rate £

Cost

VAT 5%

Cost inc. VAT

Offpeak

2881.550

0.1590

£458

£23

£481

Peak

1072.950

0.2761

£296

£15

£311

Total

3954.500

 

£754

£38

£792

 

This is about what you would pay on the fixed-rate plan, but on the variable plan, it might be [£792/4 = £198 x 9.5% = ] £19 cheaper next quarter, but [£198 - £19 = £179 x 15% = ] £27 more expensive in the quarter after that. No-one has any real idea what the rates will be next year.

Meanwhile, the standing charge would be about [0.5045 - 0.2969 = 0.2076 x 365/4 = ] £19 cheaper per quarter for the fixed rate at least until 1 October. So you’d break even over the next quarter (July-September) and possibly start saving from 1 October onwards.

That depends, of course, on what happens with standing charges in the fourth quarter, and that’s what no-one has any idea about. There are moves afoot to have them reduced, but who for and by how much remains to be seen. The new government may well have something to say about it, since there will be considerable pressure on them to do something to help those who use least energy (particularly those who can’t afford to spend more) who are at most disadvantage from high standing charges. Any reduction will probably be loaded on to the unit price, in which case a fixed-rate tariff with a low standing charge may well be a good bet, because any such changes wouldn’t have any effect on it. 

The decision is yours. If you’d like the peace of mind that comes with knowing precisely how much you’ll be paying for the next year, fix. If you expect the fixed-rate tariff to work out cheaper over the year than the variable one, fix. If you suspect that the fixed-rate tariff will work out prohibitively more expensive, don’t fix.

And last: I fixed for a year last month, at a much higher standing charge than you’re currently being offered. Perhaps I should have waited a bit ...

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Rank 5
June 8, 2024

Thank you @Firedog  you have given me a lot to think about, I think I will wait until the end of this month and  go from there

 

 

 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
June 8, 2024

… you have given me a lot to think about, I think I will wait until the end of this month and  go from there

 

That’s the problem with attractive fixed-rate deals. It’s a bit like DFS sales, except that you don’t know when the sale will end. The next time you look, that tariff may well have gone away, usurped by another less favourable one. Then again, the replacement might be more favourable. You can never know, so you just have to gamble. It’s not easy to make predictions, especially about the future, but that’s what the people who work out these tariffs are doing all day. 

There is method in their madness, though. The number of customers allowed to take up an offer like the one you had is probably limited. Once the quota is filled, that’s it. The company know how much they stand to lose if the predictions were wrong, so they’re taking a gamble, too. It’s both swings and roundabouts for them, but for the customer, it’s really only one or the other. Make sure you get on the right ride!

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |